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After using Mullvad for a while now, I believe they care about privacy more than others. Maybe I'm wrong.
Mullvad's campaign against EU chat control
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In this case, their interest is aligned with the public interest, so nothing wrong.
Epic Vs Apple, Oracle Vs Google are also just companies acting in their own interest but that doesn't mean that the public should be unconcerned or that the people's interest won't align more or entirely with the side of one corporation.
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#24There are an unusual number of comments from new accounts making disingenuous arguments on this post. I wonder who is behind the astroturfing.
The answer to "what else should we do about bad people doing bad things?" is, of course how we usually catch people doing bad things: old-fashioned detective work. It involves taking reports of suspicious or illegal acts, interviewing witnesses and associates, requesting court orders to search or surveil specific people and places when there's evidence to do so, etc.... It doesn't scale. It's not supposed to.
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#26I agree, we need to stop the EU overreach immediately.
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#27Translations: First ad: Kid: Haha!! Did you send the photo to mom, dad? Dad's phone: Your photo has triggered our criminal activities filter. Your online services have been suspended and the police has been alerted. Caption: Create safe spaces online for children instead of making the internet unsafe for everyone. ... Second ad: First worker: Weren't we just supposed to look for sexual crimes and terrorism? Second wo…
This is what Microsoft and Google are doing already. This is why I don't backup my photos to a cloud any more.
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#28To be honest I'm not very hopeful. The average Joe really is gullible - just drop some terrorism, children and nowadays some "preventing misinformation" bs (which of course has never and will never be twisted to fit government's needs at the time) to the mix and people will accept it. Nevertheless I support these campaigns since I'm more than happy to be proven wrong.
It is also just not caring. In the US the largest voter bloc is non-voter most of the time, even in presidential elections, with primaries and midterms skewing even worse. It is better in Germany though, but not vastly so.
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#29The problem is there are no reports on what counter terrorism units achieved, how many potential attacks they thwarted because it would jepoardize their work, at least that's the mantra. So it's a you have to believe us that these measures is a must situation.
The problem is, that the silicon we use in everyday hardware is a black box. Same applies to online services. We do not even know how Youtube's and other big services' and hardware units' lawful intercept/secretservice interface looks like and what options do they offer to surveil and manipulate (!) average people. So there is deffo zero insight into this matter.
Who do you believe? It's like religion if you don't know what to look for. So... choose a god and believe.
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#30Ha!
I probably should get a mullvad account just to support them (even if I use my own VPN).
Something that is not discussed much in Sweden is surveillance via the bank system. Banks have access to customers' transaction information and use it for two purposes: the "useful" feature of telling their customer how many of their purchases were e.g. food vs entertainment or house rent, and--of course--for advertising their products and services to their customers.
And then the government has legislation to demand that banks mass-report certain information from private citizens, like revenue/expenses for financial services (i.e. interest paid on loans and capital earnings from financial assets) plus any international transactions. One small stumble down the slippery slope of surveillance, and the Swedish government will be able to build profiles of each citizen using the information collected by banks.