Tested an iPhone 4S on Three (UK)'s mobile network - no phone number passed in the HTTP headers.
UK network o2 send your number to every site you visit
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Re: UK network o2 send your number to every site you visit
#72I'm filing a Data Protection complaint now. I'd encourage other UK HNers to do the same: http://www.ico.gov.uk/complaints/data_protection.aspx
Just been looking into this and from the little info I can find, it looks like your phone number would be classed as personal information and so covered by the data protection act.
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's the 3rd party sites I'm more interested in - I can see that carriers may want it as a security function for internal websites and as they already have your number and all your details anyway, it's not really an issue then. For instance with your banking example, yes, I may have given my number and probably have if I'm a customer. But what if I'm just browsing a banks website thinking about opening an account? Sh…
> For instance with your banking example, yes, I may have given my number and probably have if I'm a customer. But what if I'm just browsing a banks website thinking about opening an account? Sorry I wasn't clearer. I was referring to the use-case where you have an HTTPS connection open with the banking site, and the carrier has agreed to send your mobile number to the banking site only under these conditions (perhap…
>Sorry I wasn't clearer. I was referring to the use-case where you have an HTTPS connection open with the banking site, and the carrier has agreed to send your mobile number to the banking site only under these conditions (perhaps for security/tracing/auditing purposes).
I'm confused, how do they insert headers in to HTTPS?
> Yes. This is the same grey area with the potential for abuse that every single company must deal with whenever we hand them our personal information (Google, Facebook, etc).
Of course, and in all these cases having a way to check up on what is done would be good.
> I'm not sure why you're implying that I hold this opinion. It seems we're in violent agreement here.
I wasn't trying to imply anything about your opinions at all, sorry, bad grammar. I was strictly talking about my own opinions.
Re: UK network o2 send your number to every site you visit
#74My number didn't show up in the header but I think my data might be going through Blackberry, not o2.
Re: UK network o2 send your number to every site you visit
#75I'm on Giffgaff, which is a daughter company of O2, same problem. Started a support thread on the website, let's see what they say.
Also commented on this on the GG community. Hopefully Giffgaff can apply some pressure on O2 from a more official direction.
Re: UK network o2 send your number to every site you visit
#76I'm on Giffgaff, which is a daughter company of O2, same problem. Started a support thread on the website, let's see what they say.
On giffgaff too, any chance you could link to that thread?
Re: UK network o2 send your number to every site you visit
#77Unrelated story from yesterday but slightly funny in it's timing:
"Head of PR for O2 Nicola Green has been promoted to director of comms and reputation for O2's parent company Telefónica UK." http://www.prweek.com/news/1113672/Head-PR-O2-Nicola-Green-b...
Wonder if this means they have no head of PR in place at the moment? Ouch.
Re: UK network o2 send your number to every site you visit
#78I'm filing a Data Protection complaint now. I'd encourage other UK HNers to do the same: http://www.ico.gov.uk/complaints/data_protection.aspx
Just been looking into this and from the little info I can find, it looks like your phone number would be classed as personal information and so covered by the data protection act.
Yeah. Just submitted a form as well and got response from ICO that case work has been received. According to the law, companies that break Data Protection, can be fined up to £500,000 per case.
Re: UK network o2 send your number to every site you visit
#79If an image is loaded from a third-party site then presumably that request's header also includes the phone number. Can anyone confirm? That would mean that it's not just the website you're visiting that's getting your phone number, but advertisers too.
Here comes the SMS spam...
Re: UK network o2 send your number to every site you visit
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would sodding hope it's illegal in the UK to! Altho as IANAL I can't think of which law exactly would cover it. Anyone know? I'm envious, you Germans have great privacy laws.
you Germans have great privacy laws. A lot of these laws are from EU Directives, which the UK would have implemented aswell. Brussles isn't all bad! :P
Germany's privacy laws are pretty special and predate the EU. Privacy of post and telecommunication has been in the Federal constitution from the start (article 10; the constitution took effect in 1949 and the consisted of articles 1-18) and basically say that the privacy of communication over a distance is inviolable.
The courts have interpreted this privacy as applying not only to the carrier, but also as a duty each end of the communication has to the other. I understand that if someone outside Germany were to call me (in Germany), I could not legally record the conversation until I had informed you of what I was about to do.
Cf. (in fairly straightforward German) http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/gg/art_10.html