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Re: The apps that Americans search to “delete” the most

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Post by kridsdale1 » Thu, Mar 09, 2023, 2:26 PM UTC

nonethewiser wrote: post #235

bcrosby95 wrote: post #186

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I saw a youtube short like this. It was a video demonstrating the "perfect" guy. It started reasonable, with him saying "oh can you check this on my phone? the passcode is XYZ" Yeah, I would have trusted my current-wife then-girlfriend with my phone passcode pretty early on, no big deal. She didn't feel the need to know it, but casually telling it to her so she could do something with it is probably a thing that happ…

Even still, the fixation on the passcode thing is insecurity.

Literally

Re: The apps that Americans search to “delete” the most

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Post by sw104 » Thu, Mar 09, 2023, 2:46 PM UTC

notmindthegap wrote: post #72

VCs with no personal skin in the game have funded what is essentially addiction engineering. It’s wild that the industry does not seem to have the awareness to understand or care about this. People are getting paid fat salaries to figure out how to covertly manipulate users into abdicating their attention and time to wholly isolated, disconnected, and malnourishing behaviors. Now the techies are concerned with the me…

Just add it to the pile. It's humanity.

- Cigarette companies giving people lung cancer.

- Alcohol companies giving people lifelong addictions and liver disease.

- Food companies happily providing high calorie, high fat food to contribute to the obesity epidemic.

- Tech workers inventing hyper-addictive apps, websites, social networks and video games.

- Media companies producing endless mindless content that we won't remember or care about in our dying days.

Everybody just destroying one another (and the planet) for that sweet dollar dollar bill.

Re: The apps that Americans search to “delete” the most

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Post by sw104 » Thu, Mar 09, 2023, 2:54 PM UTC

conqrr wrote: post #21

Social media is getting closer to fast fashion. Every app is doomed on creation to live a short life. I'm happy with this, since in reality, its ultimately a tool for marketing and social media is just the side effect. Superficial way of connecting to the masses? use the latest Social media. The real way of staying in touch with people? giving them a call or an email if not meet in person. Nothing beats the personal…

The giants seem pretty well entrenched.

I have to confess. I' think I'll be a bit happier when everything I see doesn't have a Facebook icon and link next to it.

Re: The apps that Americans search to “delete” the most

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Post by ajsnigrutin » Thu, Mar 09, 2023, 3:25 PM UTC

lynx23 wrote: post #256

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #210

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The biggest problem with instagram (well and most other photo-based social network) is not the fame and glory of a few individuals, but a selective showing of the best highlights of other people. Imagine sitting at a shitty job, going to the bathroom, and browsing instagram... hey look, here's Alice eating at a fancy restaurant.. here's Bob on a beach... here's Cecilia at a party... here's Doug moutain climbing... an…

This kind of reminds me what I experienced during my first travel to south america. In short, most people I met with shitty jobs or no job wanted to go to either north america or europe. They kind of assumed everything would be fine if they just could go to one of these countries. What they totally forgot is that we had to work our asses of to actually pay for the flight and 2 months or backpacking. At home, we had 9…

This is what a lot of immigrants during the "refugee crisis" thought too... pay the smugglers a couple of grand, then they come to germany, get a free house, free money, buy a bmw.

Re: The apps that Americans search to “delete” the most

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Post by jstarfish » Thu, Mar 09, 2023, 5:37 PM UTC

nailer wrote: post #279

thiht wrote: post #278

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> Words have meanings. Yes. Here's the meaning of "domestic violence" according to some authoritative sources: - - - https://www.un.org/en/coronavirus/what-is-domestic-abuse > Domestic abuse, also called "domestic violence" [...]. Abuse is physical, sexual, emotional, economic or psychological actions or threats of actions that influence another person. - - - https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/violence-…

Yes. The misuse of terms you've shown is exactly the concern I and other victims of domestic violence have. Meanwhile, here the Oxford English Dictionary: violence, n. 1. a. The exercise of physical force so as to inflict injury on, or cause damage to, persons or property; action or conduct characterized by this; treatment or usage tending to cause bodily injury or forcibly interfering with personal freedom. You are…

I'm sorry to hear about your experience, but the definition you yourself quoted plainly states:

> treatment or usage tending to cause bodily injury or forcibly interfering with personal freedom.

Domestic violence comprises more than just battery by someone who happens to be a family member.

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Post by neslisah » Thu, Mar 09, 2023, 6:13 PM UTC

jonathan_h wrote: post #157

neslisah wrote: post #150

From a person who constantly deletes and reuploads the apps I have different reasons for each. Instagram is very addictive, Twitter demolishes me from the inside, Linkedin drags my confidence down, Spotify & I have a personal problem. When I feel that way with the apps I delete them to get rid of those situations and when I feel better I reupload them. Because it is my fault to feel those things not the apps. In thes…

I agree with you on every point. If you're willing to share, I'm curious on what issues you're having with Spotify. Do you feel you're filling the silence too much with it, or something else? I'm tired of Spotify too, in part because I don't see an endgame where I shut the family plan off. My family uses it a lot.

First of all, Spotify recommends music way too related with what I already listen. I want to hear new songs, genres and want it to remind me old songs that I grew up with. But Spotify can't fulfill that. Also I think Spotify has a very good UX design so that it is very easy to access every time comfortably when I go silent as you say. Mainly for those reasons I switched Spotify with YouTube Music for now. And financially YouTube Premium is more advantaged, you can watch videos without ads and you can listen whatever you want even covers.

Re: The apps that Americans search to “delete” the most

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Post by nailer » Thu, Mar 09, 2023, 7:07 PM UTC

jstarfish wrote: post #285

nailer wrote: post #279

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Yes. The misuse of terms you've shown is exactly the concern I and other victims of domestic violence have. Meanwhile, here the Oxford English Dictionary: violence, n. 1. a. The exercise of physical force so as to inflict injury on, or cause damage to, persons or property; action or conduct characterized by this; treatment or usage tending to cause bodily injury or forcibly interfering with personal freedom. You are…

I'm sorry to hear about your experience, but the definition you yourself quoted plainly states: > treatment or usage tending to cause bodily injury or forcibly interfering with personal freedom. Domestic violence comprises more than just battery by someone who happens to be a family member.

> forcibly interfering with personal freedom.

Forcibly. If there's no force there's no violence.

Psychologically abusing someone does not involve the use of force.

> Domestic violence comprises more than just battery by someone who happens to be a family member.

Agreed, thankfully nobody defined in the conversation defined domestic violence this way.

Again: domestic violence most include violence, i.e. the use of force.

Why are people trying to hard to redefine words?

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Mar 09, 2023, 8:42 PM UTC

GoblinSlayer wrote: post #263

Godel_unicode wrote: post #251

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If you actually don’t care you wouldn’t post because it wouldn’t occur to you to. Edit: I find that most people who scream “I don’t care what you think” generally mean “I’m not influenced by what you think”. Which is an important difference, and helps explain getting red in the face about someone else’s opinion about which one don’t care.

That's because delusion is ugly and thus invokes complaint, so yes sufficient ugliness has influence, but the influence of ugliness is invocation of complaint about ugliness, it doesn't define who you are.

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Re: The apps that Americans search to “delete” the most

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Post by tristor » Thu, Mar 09, 2023, 11:49 PM UTC

standardUser wrote: post #202

notmindthegap wrote: post #72

VCs with no personal skin in the game have funded what is essentially addiction engineering. It’s wild that the industry does not seem to have the awareness to understand or care about this. People are getting paid fat salaries to figure out how to covertly manipulate users into abdicating their attention and time to wholly isolated, disconnected, and malnourishing behaviors. Now the techies are concerned with the me…

I'm not going to feign surprise that there is no shortage of young, white, straight men with engineering degrees that either don't care or can't comprehend that they are contributing to a mental health crisis in exchange for $250k/yr.

The majority of people in engineering roles in the tech industry aren't white, engineering in tech is now a heavily East Asian/South Asian dominated segment of the industry, especially in the tech companies that are producing these things. Young, definitely, straight probably, men mostly, but not so much white.

All of those things likely don't matter, what matters is $250k/yr puts you in the top 5% of earners in the United States of America and the top 0.01% of earners globally. That's a major motivation to do whatever is necessary to earn. Upton Sinclair said it correctly nearly a hundred years ago: “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”

Race, Gender, Age, Sexuality not relevant.

Re: The apps that Americans search to “delete” the most

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Post by jstarfish » Fri, Mar 10, 2023, 12:09 AM UTC

nailer wrote: post #287

jstarfish wrote: post #285

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I'm sorry to hear about your experience, but the definition you yourself quoted plainly states: > treatment or usage tending to cause bodily injury or forcibly interfering with personal freedom. Domestic violence comprises more than just battery by someone who happens to be a family member.

> forcibly interfering with personal freedom. Forcibly. If there's no force there's no violence. Psychologically abusing someone does not involve the use of force. > Domestic violence comprises more than just battery by someone who happens to be a family member. Agreed, thankfully nobody defined in the conversation defined domestic violence this way. Again: domestic violence most include violence, i.e. the use of for…

> Forcibly. If there's no force there's no violence.

I get where you're coming from but enough men figured out that when wife-beating became illegal, they could continue to torment their wives and exes through passive-aggressive, explicitly nonviolent acts enough that the laws were expanded and the definition changed.

The redefinition happened at least 20 years ago and has since propagated across multiple disciplines (law enforcement and psychology inclusive). Even publishing revenge porn falls under domestic violence statutes now.

Yes, it no longer meets the strictly-literal definition of violence. It is what it is. Rather than arguing it here, consider adapting to the times or taking your grievance to the Department of Justice (https://www.justice.gov/ovw/domestic-violence):

> Domestic violence is a pattern of abusive behavior in any relationship that is used by one partner to gain or maintain power and control over another intimate partner. Domestic violence can be physical, sexual, emotional, economic, psychological, or technological actions or threats of actions or other patterns of coercive behavior that influence another person within an intimate partner relationship. This includes any behaviors that intimidate, manipulate, humiliate, isolate, frighten, terrorize, coerce, threaten, blame, hurt, injure, or wound someone.