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The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

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Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

True for Widevine L3, which is what the article is talking about. Not true in general, and not true for L2 or L1.

I'd argue the same goes for L1 and L2. But the obscurity is provided by the silicon packaging process. Would be nice to crowdfund a lab to break these hardware backed treachery schemes.

When you say “security through obscurity” there’s a certain understanding that we’re drawing a line between implementation secrecy (obscurity / obfuscation) and key secrecy. If we extend the word “obscurity” to include the notion of physical security, I think we’ve gone too far—even if physical security is just the physical security of a secret embedded in silicon that you have physical access to (because it is super difficult to recover secrets from silicon).

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

True for Widevine L3, which is what the article is talking about. Not true in general, and not true for L2 or L1.

At the end of the day, the user's hardware/software has to be given a decryption key for the content, and the DRM scheme is all about obfuscating that encryption key so that users can't find it.

I’d say that a key stored on hardware is not merely obfuscated, when that hardware is designed to prevent you from recovering the key.

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

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Excellent writeup. Asahi is my daily driver, but I've never had the need for either Spotify or Netflix. I guess the gospel of RMS and the FSF over the past few decades has steered me away from anything DRM-related.

In terms of freedom of using compute devices, RMS has a point.

In terms of freedom of using media, I'm less annoyed by Spotify or Netflix than I am by "purchases" of media that have DRM. It's clear that one is renting with the streaming services, but Amazon can revoke permission for me to read books I have purchased or Valve can revoke permission for me to play games I have purchased, we are truly living in a dystopia.

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

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post #23

Excellent writeup. Asahi is my daily driver, but I've never had the need for either Spotify or Netflix. I guess the gospel of RMS and the FSF over the past few decades has steered me away from anything DRM-related.

In terms of freedom of using compute devices, RMS has a point. In terms of freedom of using media, I'm less annoyed by Spotify or Netflix than I am by "purchases" of media that have DRM. It's clear that one is renting with the streaming services, but Amazon can revoke permission for me to read books I have purchased or Valve can revoke permission for me to play games I have purchased, we are truly living in a dystopi…

Instead of “buy”, they should be labeled “rentals - as long as provider exists or chooses to give you access”.

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

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> This should be alarming to anyone with a stake in content "protection". Look how many hoops I had to jump through just to legally watch Netflix as a paying customer! This tells me I should just stay on macOS or Windows rather than go on a Safari hunt for getting Netflix working on a ARM Linux machine.

You wouldn't have to anymore thanks to this work. You can just install the necessary package now.

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

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For some reason, my Jellyfin and Navidrome instances doesn't use Widevine (garbageware) in any way.

Radarr, Lidarr, Sonarr, and the other Arrs work beautifully to control what media I want, get it, and store it appropriately.

And the files I download from Usenet and Torrents work on any platform powerful enough to play them.

I was treated like a criminal when legitimately buying media years ago. Already learned https://xkcd.com/488/ this lesson.

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

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post #27

The target site is intermittently experiencing the HN Hug of Death, so if you have trouble accessing it, here's an archive link: https://web.archive.org/web/20230309144317/https://www.da.vi...

The link in the webarchive pointing to the gist of the script is wrong, for what ever reason (at least the name of the script is completly different). This is the correct gist: https://gist.github.com/DavidBuchanan314/c6b97add51b97e4c3ee...

Re: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux

#30

Excellent writeup. Asahi is my daily driver, but I've never had the need for either Spotify or Netflix. I guess the gospel of RMS and the FSF over the past few decades has steered me away from anything DRM-related.

Spotify has alternative clients like raspotify, so there you should have alternatives that don't need hacks. There's also a web client.
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