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Re: Apple launches its new classical music streaming app for pre-order

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Post by browningstreet » Thu, Mar 09, 2023, 4:26 PM UTC

vestrigi wrote: post #10

crazygringo wrote: post #3

This is fantastic, classical music absolutely needs a dedicated interface since the organization by composer and multi-movement works is so different from popular music. But I wonder if it will help with finding which version of a work to listen to. A given symphony or piano prelude might have 100 or more recordings. If you go to classical music forum postings, you can usually find a thread asking "what's your favori…

Do you have an accessible example for two different recordings of a composition that each shine in their own light?

A million examples, but I'll offer just one:

Moonlight Sonata 1st Movement.

Slow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbTVZMJ9Z2I

Faster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrqBw4eELOM

Same could be said for compositions recorded on different instruments. Moonlight Sonata doesn't have to be played on piano. There are lots of recordings of it on other instruments.

Re: Apple launches its new classical music streaming app for pre-order

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Post by tootie » Thu, Mar 09, 2023, 4:30 PM UTC

crazygringo wrote: post #3

This is fantastic, classical music absolutely needs a dedicated interface since the organization by composer and multi-movement works is so different from popular music. But I wonder if it will help with finding which version of a work to listen to. A given symphony or piano prelude might have 100 or more recordings. If you go to classical music forum postings, you can usually find a thread asking "what's your favori…

Not quite what you're describing but it made me think of this annual countdown from this classical station https://www.wqxr.org/classical-countdown-2022/

People got a little nuts in the comment thread taking it very seriously.

Re: Apple launches its new classical music streaming app for pre-order

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Post by badwolf » Thu, Mar 09, 2023, 4:34 PM UTC

vestrigi wrote: post #10

crazygringo wrote: post #3

This is fantastic, classical music absolutely needs a dedicated interface since the organization by composer and multi-movement works is so different from popular music. But I wonder if it will help with finding which version of a work to listen to. A given symphony or piano prelude might have 100 or more recordings. If you go to classical music forum postings, you can usually find a thread asking "what's your favori…

Do you have an accessible example for two different recordings of a composition that each shine in their own light?

There are truly so many variables, How many of each instrument in an orchestra, the orchestra's layout, the conductor, the recording, the acoustics of the physical location, etc...

Take for example, Stokowski doing Clair de Lune https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMvIy1HO3UY vs Stanley Black: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zxpbwedpo4

Then again, you can even take a different recording of Stokowski doing Clair de Lune, and get a different experience still - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VMjfPPMKK0

Re: Apple launches its new classical music streaming app for pre-order

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Post by l5870uoo9y » Thu, Mar 09, 2023, 4:38 PM UTC

vestrigi wrote: post #10

crazygringo wrote: post #3

This is fantastic, classical music absolutely needs a dedicated interface since the organization by composer and multi-movement works is so different from popular music. But I wonder if it will help with finding which version of a work to listen to. A given symphony or piano prelude might have 100 or more recordings. If you go to classical music forum postings, you can usually find a thread asking "what's your favori…

Do you have an accessible example for two different recordings of a composition that each shine in their own light?

Goldberg variations comes to mind. If you search for it on your music service you will without a doubt be presented with Glenn Gould famous interpretation from 1955 where he eccentrically hums you through. You can then listen other renditions and you will notice they are quite different (foreinstance Fazil Say or Lang Lang)

Re: Apple launches its new classical music streaming app for pre-order

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Post by l5870uoo9y » Thu, Mar 09, 2023, 4:42 PM UTC

browningstreet wrote: post #11

vestrigi wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have an accessible example for two different recordings of a composition that each shine in their own light?

A million examples, but I'll offer just one: Moonlight Sonata 1st Movement. Slow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbTVZMJ9Z2I Faster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrqBw4eELOM Same could be said for compositions recorded on different instruments. Moonlight Sonata doesn't have to be played on piano. There are lots of recordings of it on other instruments.

That is a good example. You could also go even wilder and compare classical Bach interpretations with jazzy Bach interpretations.

Re: Apple launches its new classical music streaming app for pre-order

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Post by KingMob » Thu, Mar 09, 2023, 4:44 PM UTC

Nice, but it would be great if Apple fixed the UI and bugs in Apple Music first.

I can't hide the non-streaming parts I'll never use, but sometimes search keeps directing me to it.

And that's when searching itself isn't wildly broken. A quarter of the time, the search bar loses focus after each character, requiring me to click back in or reboot the app.

Re: Apple launches its new classical music streaming app for pre-order

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Post by w10-1 » Thu, Mar 09, 2023, 4:46 PM UTC

Let's hope it doesn't kill the only radio station with sense but without ads: KDFC

Re: Apple launches its new classical music streaming app for pre-order

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Mar 09, 2023, 4:49 PM UTC

crazygringo wrote: post #3

This is fantastic, classical music absolutely needs a dedicated interface since the organization by composer and multi-movement works is so different from popular music. But I wonder if it will help with finding which version of a work to listen to. A given symphony or piano prelude might have 100 or more recordings. If you go to classical music forum postings, you can usually find a thread asking "what's your favori…

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Re: Apple launches its new classical music streaming app for pre-order

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Post by visarga » Thu, Mar 09, 2023, 4:50 PM UTC

Yeah, nice, but I will still use YouTube and Reddit for classical music. I can get access to lesser known composers and artists on YouTube, and Reddit will surface better suggestions and commentary. Even the YT comments are good quality in classical music videos.

Re: Apple launches its new classical music streaming app for pre-order

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Post by ben7799 » Thu, Mar 09, 2023, 4:51 PM UTC

vestrigi wrote: post #10

crazygringo wrote: post #3

This is fantastic, classical music absolutely needs a dedicated interface since the organization by composer and multi-movement works is so different from popular music. But I wonder if it will help with finding which version of a work to listen to. A given symphony or piano prelude might have 100 or more recordings. If you go to classical music forum postings, you can usually find a thread asking "what's your favori…

Do you have an accessible example for two different recordings of a composition that each shine in their own light?

Another example is orchestras that record historical pieces with period correct instruments that are intonated/tuned/tempered in a period correct way as those changed over the years.

Look up Well Temperament versus Equal Temperament, etc..

These kinds of changes can make things sound quite different than a modern interpretation on modern instruments setup in a modern way.