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DuckDuckGo Launches DuckAssist

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Re: DuckDuckGo Launches DuckAssist

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Something something, lame duck joke. I really do not see any wisdom in turning search engines into answer engines. Yes, they're bespoke toys today , and you can still search the web alongside asking a LLM for an answer. But the day this becomes the default, it just becomes a countdown to the day "search" is depreciated entirely. And then rather than "doing your own research", you get to pick which Big Tech silo you t…

I can't imagine the disasters that would result from getting answers from a search engine instead of human-written documents. Maybe it's an inconvenience to get the wrong showtimes for a movie but what about when you're asking about the weather on your long distance hiking trip? Whether it's legal for you to carry your gun on your trip downtown? This is going to cause so much damage.

That depends on the humans writing. ChatGPT has its faults, but it's got a better hit rate than people.

> A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.

Can't get too much worse than thousands dying from a virus that has a vaccine because they're off drinking bleach and horse dewormer.

Re: DuckDuckGo Launches DuckAssist

#63
post #41

Hi all, I'm the author of this post (and the CEO/Founder of DuckDuckGo). Happy to take a few questions about how DuckAssist works, but to clarify what I think may be some confusion from the other comments, we're not just asking a LLM to summarize Wikipedia from its training, nor did we train an LLM on Wikipedia -- instead, we use our own Wikipedia index to pull out the relevant sentences, and then ask the LLM to veri…

How can I invest in DDG?

Re: DuckDuckGo Launches DuckAssist

#64
post #50

Something something, lame duck joke. I really do not see any wisdom in turning search engines into answer engines. Yes, they're bespoke toys today , and you can still search the web alongside asking a LLM for an answer. But the day this becomes the default, it just becomes a countdown to the day "search" is depreciated entirely. And then rather than "doing your own research", you get to pick which Big Tech silo you t…

It's "hurdling towards". All's it takes is a quick search on Bingle Duck Jeeves! to know that fact. Do you're research :)

hurtle: to move with great speed, or to fling with great force.

hurdle: to leap over something, or to overcome an obstacle.

If you hurdle towards things with great speed I admire your dexterity. I'll stick with hurtling, thanks.

Edit: can I assume that "you're" entire comment was deliberate?

Re: DuckDuckGo Launches DuckAssist

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Something something, lame duck joke. I really do not see any wisdom in turning search engines into answer engines. Yes, they're bespoke toys today , and you can still search the web alongside asking a LLM for an answer. But the day this becomes the default, it just becomes a countdown to the day "search" is depreciated entirely. And then rather than "doing your own research", you get to pick which Big Tech silo you t…

Being able to search a ranked index of sources is extremely powerful but thats nothing compared what is possible when you can outsource intelligence. In other words, when you can outsource the part of cognition where you need to understand the problem, go through the ranked sources, find the right answer and digest it in right way. This is unbelievably powerful, comparing it to horse carriages vs cars does not do it…

I wonder what happens when you outsource enough of your cognition...

Re: DuckDuckGo Launches DuckAssist

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post #41

Hi all, I'm the author of this post (and the CEO/Founder of DuckDuckGo). Happy to take a few questions about how DuckAssist works, but to clarify what I think may be some confusion from the other comments, we're not just asking a LLM to summarize Wikipedia from its training, nor did we train an LLM on Wikipedia -- instead, we use our own Wikipedia index to pull out the relevant sentences, and then ask the LLM to veri…

It still has the issue of treating some groups differently based on protected characteristics. What's being done about that? For example "what is most attractive about men?" Produces an answer, but not if asked about 'women'. And "why do men earn more?" Doesn't activate duckassist but "why do women earn less?" Does. Well it did load must be overwhelming at the moment.

As noted in the post, the triggering of the feature right now is quite low and so it would generally be expected it would not trigger for most queries. That also means it is easy to find examples of where it would/would not trigger based on changing a word two. To the broader point of potential disparate triggering for these type of searches in particular, we have not studied that yet, but duly noted as something we should look at.

Re: DuckDuckGo Launches DuckAssist

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post #60
post #41

Hi all, I'm the author of this post (and the CEO/Founder of DuckDuckGo). Happy to take a few questions about how DuckAssist works, but to clarify what I think may be some confusion from the other comments, we're not just asking a LLM to summarize Wikipedia from its training, nor did we train an LLM on Wikipedia -- instead, we use our own Wikipedia index to pull out the relevant sentences, and then ask the LLM to veri…

Thank you for paving the way for user privacy in the search arena. The ability to generate tons of content with LLMs is going to be overwhelming by the summer. The worry that I have regarding future search is that we need a way to defend against SEO generated by these LLMs and non-useful LLM outputs in general. Is there a way that LLMs can be used to help in this effort? I feel like we are going to have to go back to…

Fighting SEO spam is a never-ending arms race. I agree with your sentiment that is is likely to get worse and we need to be prepared for that. I'm not sure yet if LLMs will be significantly useful themselves in stopping it.

Re: DuckDuckGo Launches DuckAssist

#69

At least here, they are specifically training it on just educational public sources. Seems like a respectable usage of the tech.

No, the article doesn't say how its trained.

Yes it does:

If you enter a question that can be answered by Wikipedia into our search box, DuckAssist may appear and use AI natural language technology to anonymously generate a brief, sourced summary of what it finds in Wikipedia — right above our regular private search results.

Re: DuckDuckGo Launches DuckAssist

#70
post #12

At least here, they are specifically training it on just educational public sources. Seems like a respectable usage of the tech.

What do you mean "at least here"? What's wrong with other usage? They are using OpenAI so they haven't trained it themselves and is just inputting the Wikipedia article as a prompt. I don't see how that is more respectable than literally every other service built on OpenAI.

Right in the release:

DuckAssist answers questions by scanning a specific set of sources — for now that’s usually Wikipedia, and occasionally related sites like Britannica — using DuckDuckGo’s active indexing. Because we’re using natural language technology from OpenAI and Anthropic to summarize what we find in Wikipedia, these answers should be more directly responsive to your actual question than traditional search results or other Instant Answers.

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