WhatsApp would not remove end-to-end encryption for UK law, says chief
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Re: WhatsApp would not remove end-to-end encryption for UK law, says chief
#2I can't believe Meta is fighting the good fight for once.
Re: WhatsApp would not remove end-to-end encryption for UK law, says chief
#3“If the company refused to do, it could face fines of up to 4% of its parent company Meta’s annual turnover – unless it pulled out of the UK market entirely.”
Wow. I wonder if it got to that point if Meta would change course and disable end to end encryption for UK users and people messaging UK users, if that would be sufficient to comply. If this lobbying causes the UK to change course, I wonder what impact that would have on other countries’ attempts to weaken encryption, if any other such attempts are happening.
Re: WhatsApp would not remove end-to-end encryption for UK law, says chief
#4“If the company refused to do, it could face fines of up to 4% of its parent company Meta’s annual turnover – unless it pulled out of the UK market entirely.” Wow. I wonder if it got to that point if Meta would change course and disable end to end encryption for UK users and people messaging UK users, if that would be sufficient to comply. If this lobbying causes the UK to change course, I wonder what impact that wou…
They say that 98% of users are outside the UK (and those users very likely won't want reduced encryption), so whatsapp would probably just exit the UK.
Re: WhatsApp would not remove end-to-end encryption for UK law, says chief
#5“If the company refused to do, it could face fines of up to 4% of its parent company Meta’s annual turnover – unless it pulled out of the UK market entirely.” Wow. I wonder if it got to that point if Meta would change course and disable end to end encryption for UK users and people messaging UK users, if that would be sufficient to comply. If this lobbying causes the UK to change course, I wonder what impact that wou…
They say that 98% of users are outside the UK (and those users very likely won't want reduced encryption), so whatsapp would probably just exit the UK.
I know in some non-US countries, WhatsApp is the default way of communicating (like SMS is in the US). Is that true in the UK? That could put significant pressure on the government
Re: WhatsApp would not remove end-to-end encryption for UK law, says chief
#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
They say that 98% of users are outside the UK (and those users very likely won't want reduced encryption), so whatsapp would probably just exit the UK.
I know in some non-US countries, WhatsApp is the default way of communicating (like SMS is in the US). Is that true in the UK? That could put significant pressure on the government
Everyone I know here (UK) uses WhatsApp as their default communication tool. I have a few friends using Signal or Telegram, but I'd say WhatsApp is by and large the default, at least for my social circle.
Re: WhatsApp would not remove end-to-end encryption for UK law, says chief
#7uh.... will this not push other countries to force whatsapp a la blackberry?
Re: WhatsApp would not remove end-to-end encryption for UK law, says chief
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
I know in some non-US countries, WhatsApp is the default way of communicating (like SMS is in the US). Is that true in the UK? That could put significant pressure on the government
Everyone I know here (UK) uses WhatsApp as their default communication tool. I have a few friends using Signal or Telegram, but I'd say WhatsApp is by and large the default, at least for my social circle.
Signal said they may have to pull out of the UK if the bill is enacted as well. This would be a major setback for communications here. We'd basically have to go back to SMS/MMS and email as far as I can tell.
I don't know this is a fight the UK government can win. Does anyone else remember that the American government tried to ban encryption (back in the 90's I think it was)? They eventually had to give up because people just downloaded encryption products from the internet and used them anyway.
Re: WhatsApp would not remove end-to-end encryption for UK law, says chief
#9I can't believe Meta is fighting the good fight for once.
They have been on the side of encryption since the beginning really.
I think had WhatsApp not added E2EE in 2014, Encryption wouldn't be that wide spread today.
Re: WhatsApp would not remove end-to-end encryption for UK law, says chief
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
I know in some non-US countries, WhatsApp is the default way of communicating (like SMS is in the US). Is that true in the UK? That could put significant pressure on the government
Everyone I know here (UK) uses WhatsApp as their default communication tool. I have a few friends using Signal or Telegram, but I'd say WhatsApp is by and large the default, at least for my social circle.
It's relatively easy for people to switch, compared to other social networks.