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Re: The apps that Americans search to “delete” the most

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Post by nobody9999 »

prawn wrote: post #203
nobody9999 wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It seems to me that people who truly do not care would just not engage in the first place? That seems rather reductive given the topic here. I don't own an EV auto, or any auto for that matter. By your logic, I shouldn't engage in discussions about EV vs. ICE or anything to do with transportation. Is that correct?

If you said that you have no interest whatsoever in cars or electric cars, or no care for things tangentially related (impact on climate or similar).

>If you said that you have no interest whatsoever in cars or electric cars, or no care for things tangentially related (impact on climate or similar).

A fair point. However, that's not what GGP[1] said. They said:

   > Who people think we are is who we are

   May be true for extroverts, but as an introvert I don't give a cent about 
   what random people think about me (which also explains why I do not use 
   Instagram in the first place).
I was responding to a reply[0] to that comment which asserted that:

   However there is a certain kind of dissonance between deciding to publicly 
   state "I don't care what you think" that sort of implies that they do care 
   actually.

   It seems to me that people who truly do not care would just not engage in the 
   first place?
As I said, I think that's pretty reductive. If you don't care what people on Instagram (or other social media) think, then not using such platforms makes perfect sense. Which is what GGP said.

It seems reasonable to comment on the perceived "quest for likes" in a discussion about such things, even if you don't use those platforms and/or don't care what others think.

I don't agree with GGP's point about being an introvert, as I'm an extrovert and I don't give a rat's ass about such things either. Nor do I use Instagram or other (mainstream) social media.

Despite my (potentially) poor analogy, GP seems to be implying that if you state that you don't care about something, then you actually do care. Which, as I said, seems pretty reductive. And is also a poor use of logic.

Please feel free to disagree and/or down-vote me, as I (at least as far as this, and most topics goes) don't really care what others think.

Rather, I'm interested in discussion that sparks interesting exchanges. GP's shallow dismissal of GGP doesn't do that. In fact, it may well stifle discussion. And more's the pity.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35074290

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35072080

Edit: fixed formatting and prose. Clarified my response.

Re: The apps that Americans search to “delete” the most

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Post by ethanbond »

megablast wrote: post #208
bcrosby95 wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I saw a youtube short like this. It was a video demonstrating the "perfect" guy. It started reasonable, with him saying "oh can you check this on my phone? the passcode is XYZ" Yeah, I would have trusted my current-wife then-girlfriend with my phone passcode pretty early on, no big deal. She didn't feel the need to know it, but casually telling it to her so she could do something with it is probably a thing that happ…

You saw a weird video on youtube. Parent saw some weird stuff on instagram. What is the point here?

That algorithmic feeds inject weird stuff into people’s brains

Re: The apps that Americans search to “delete” the most

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Post by Dalewyn »

max51 wrote: post #224
zucked wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 2. Thots. Maybe because I'm a male between 25-50 or something, but even though I subscribe to 0 people on Instagram that qualify as thots, my feed started getting filled with women using Instagram to advertise their OF/services. Usually these seem cross-recommended as related to comedy shorts, cosplay/gaming, or cars, but aren't really any of those things. THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS. I have consistently resisted ev…

>I cannot for the life of me figure it out. I'm sure something I did or revealed has tagged me as "likely to find this content captivating" but I don't and I wish I could flag it as such A lot of engineers in SV (and in this forum) think they know better than the users. They think they are so much better than everyone else that they feel a allowing the user to tell them they don't like something is just extra noise t…

Dev: "We're gonna want you to supply us with all of this telemetric data for reasons."

User: "Fuck off."

Dev: "No."

User: "Also, I have some feedb--

Dev: "HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLL NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWW"

User: "What--"

Dev: /dev/null

Re: The apps that Americans search to “delete” the most

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Post by nonethewiser »

notShabu wrote: post #17

Instagram democratizes the mental illness that used to only affect child stars and the hollywood famous. Who people think we are is who we are because identity is a reflection, not an actual thing in reality (similar to colors not existing in reality). Having access to a extra mirrors at first creates a sense of control. You know your mom and dad won't give you a "non-distorted" reflection so the reflection from stra…

Spot on except I don’t think identity can be boiled down to perception. It’s also not really necessary to make your point - some people simply care a lot (too much) about the perception of others. Others don’t precisely because their sense of self isn’t so dependent on others.

Re: The apps that Americans search to “delete” the most

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Post by nonethewiser »

bcrosby95 wrote: post #186
jstarfish wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> While I'm aware my relationship wasn't perfect, the standards promoted by those aesthetic Insta influencers were really impossible to obtain in real life. In the 4 months I dabbled with Instagram, I was shocked by how toxic and outright false the pop psychology memes were. They were stereotypical, frequently backwards, and deliberately misapplied. And all of that is before the cluster-B LARPing. "Your partner won't…

I saw a youtube short like this. It was a video demonstrating the "perfect" guy. It started reasonable, with him saying "oh can you check this on my phone? the passcode is XYZ" Yeah, I would have trusted my current-wife then-girlfriend with my phone passcode pretty early on, no big deal. She didn't feel the need to know it, but casually telling it to her so she could do something with it is probably a thing that happ…

Even still, the fixation on the passcode thing is insecurity.

Re: The apps that Americans search to “delete” the most

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Post by grandinteg3 »

pookha wrote: post #194
lmedinas wrote: post #123

My social media experience nowadays: - Twitter post-Musk: most of the interesting people i followed moved to Mastodon and stopped posting interesting content on Twitter. Plus App and Site went slower, same old trolls and Musk now is the center of attentions. No removed, since i go there once in a while to read what the Crypto community has to speculate. - Facebook: I refuse to use, i have absolute no interest to see…

Mastodon is great...I like how all of the wild ass american taliban leftist people are leaving twitter to go join their own boxed in caliphate's. It's a better situation for the world in general. let these maniacs cancel themselves on their own ruby servers vs polluting Twitter with their nonsense.

What?

Re: The apps that Americans search to “delete” the most

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Post by prawn »

sureglymop wrote: post #55
nlh wrote: post #41

A personal anecdote: I use Instagram for my hobby/business (coin & paper money collecting & dealing). I have mercilessly curated my feed to be ONLY people who post content purely related to the numismatic world. No real-life friends, no travel posts from random semi-friends, no selfies, none of that garbage. If someone starts posting it, I unfollow them. And for the ads -- I click on ads related to cat toys and pet f…

What I hate is that even if you curate it that meticulously (gid forbid you click on the wrong thing and mess it all up), you still get fed so many random ads and "people you could follow". Just a completely whack user unfriendly platform in my experience.

And the worst part is that if your curated feed isn't overly active (because Instagram is degrading their experience too), you get yet more suggestions and ads to fill the gaps. Plus the badgering to make reels, no matter how many times you ask it to stop suggesting that.

It's desperate behaviour from Meta.

Re: The apps that Americans search to “delete” the most

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Post by JKCalhoun »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #225
JKCalhoun wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone knows that though. I mean, a generation or two ago, it would be a literal vacation slide show you might be "treated to" when visiting a friend. Obviously they never showed slides of Bob at the GM assembly plant.

But that was once in a month occurence, not 6 times (or more) per day. And it was one coworker, not tens or hundreds of your friends and "friends"

You're right that there is difference in degree. But I don't think that changes the fact that we should already accept that what people post to Instagram are the highlights of their lives and not the drudgery.

Re: The apps that Americans search to “delete” the most

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Post by jsemrau »

ncpa-cpl wrote: post #92
neura wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Instagram democratizes the mental illness that used to only affect child stars and the hollywood famous." Wow. I have problems with Instragram, but I've never tried to sum it up into a single statement and while this is rather specific and may not include all the problems I _feel_ are there, it really does bring home the main issue, for me. A little snark in there about democratizing, as some people will always put…

> Wow. I have problems with Instragram I remember that for a few months before my partner broke up with me, their IG feed was full of reels, posts, 'comedy', 'psychology tips', about people complaining about their partners. And also lots of Insta influencers posts giving relationship tips or encouraging people to break up for diverse reasons. While I'm aware my relationship wasn't perfect, the standards promoted by t…

The joy of exploitative recommendation algorithms. I had a discussion with my daughter about TikTok's Glamour Filter the other day and now my whole feed is full of glamour filter posts. This is so unhealthy (mentally).
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