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Meta plans thousands more layoffs as soon as this week

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Re: Meta plans thousands more layoffs as soon as this week

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RestlessMind wrote: post #338
Ancalagon wrote: post #321

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Sure, but that does answer your original ask. There are options, especially if you're willing to work for just slightly less (or in some cases you can still get a raise by switching) to work at a company that pays well and makes a more positive impact on the world.

> especially if you're willing to work for just slightly less Well, in that entire list, following are the companies who don't make the world shittier: LinkedIn / Stripe / Databricks / Box / Cruise. (I will omit Waymo because its parent is Alphabet, which fails shittiness criteria). Box stock is flat since 2015. Databricks / Stripe are private so no liquidity. So only LinkedIn qualifies for "slightly less pay but not…

I mean FB stock is negative if you count people who joined in the last year...Even flat is better than that

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Post by megaman8 »

mbgerring wrote: post #291
megaman8 wrote: post #268

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i really don't understand why people don't like facebook. they're no worse than apple or your ISP (now they're truely evil). dissinfo? just unusubscribe or don't follow that account? do you really want facebook censoring everything you can see or don't see based on political correctness? or some other filter? and how is it "selling user data". I've always found this to be wholly inaccurate. it's targetted advertiseme…

Here’s one: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/15/technology/myanmar-facebo... Here’s another one: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/06/every... Another: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/11/facebooks-... Re: “no worse than Apple”: Apple implemented features to make my phone give me less notifications by default when I am driving, at work, or close to going to bed. These features are helpf…

here are the reasons I hate apple more than facebook: 1. they force developers to buy mac os x to work on their platform 2. their app store monopoly is extremely hostile towards developers and thus democracy 3. they force me to enter my financial information when I sign up with them 4. they won't allow me to use their products without an apple account which means I need yet another password to sign in 5. they won't even allow me to download apps without signing into my apple account. 6. the whole apple ecosystem kinda locks you in. 7. planned obsolescence, which I really hate.

On the other hand for facebook. I can just ignore it completely for months on end and easily block all my notifications or emails from it. or block them one by one if I choose. if i dont like the feed, then I just don't spend time on it. nothing about facebook isn't easily circumvented whereas apple has a death grip on you, as long as you need to use it's products.

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Post by sumtechguy »

cvhashim04 wrote: post #241
sumtechguy wrote: post #221

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Abstraction costs performance in many cases. But you sometimes want/need that abstraction. But on the other side of that is drop a comment in there how to abstract it if needed but do not abstract it until you need it. And 'updating' that is my favorite playstation game! It seems to be what I do every time I turn it on every few months.

I thought this was Hackernews and people fixed tech inconveniences with random scripts! I’m sure someone on here could hack together something to check for updates and run the update or automate that process with a click from your phone.

With the PS if I leave it alone and powered on it will take care of itself. But I turn it off so it does not use as much power. I have enough other items in my house turned on to heat it up :)

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Post by pfannkuchen »

Balgair wrote: post #229

Quick and dirty rule for those that have not gone through layoffs at a BigCo before: As an employee, the deeper into layoffs you go, the less attractive the layoff package gets. As in, the sooner you're laid off the better the terms and financial incentives. Not a hard rule, not what may be happening here, but a general rule.

I have seen this idea a lot recently and it sounds very plausible. I wonder though if we have a sense of why it happens? For example, perhaps this only happens when companies are in a downward spiral unable to recover, and they are less and less able to spend the cash to preserve reputation? There could be “survivorship” bias in the sense that the only companies with many rounds of layoffs are in a downward spiral.

Which is just to say that, when thinking about whether you should want to be part of a first or second round layoff, you may need to predict the future about whether the company is actually about to enter a downward spiral, before the company leadership predicts it. And, if you are able to do that reliably, you are probably already independently wealthy from making market bets along those lines (and not in a position to be laid off from a job in the first place).

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Post by pilarphosol »

jayd16 wrote: post #233
pilarphosol wrote: post #210

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I think it’s hilarious that they went and changed their name to their worst idea. The term “metaverse” comes from Snow Crash , which is a dystopia. They would know this if they actually read.

Snow Crash is a a dystopia because of hyper capitalism not because of the metaverse. It's like worrying about space travel because 2001 had a runaway AI.

True, but the reason there was so much demand to live in the metaverse is that the real world was so odious.

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Post by dcist »

jackmott42 wrote: post #159

Back in ~2016 I deleted my Facebook account, because it was a horrible place that brought out the worst in people. A few days ago someone alerted me that my account was live again and posting weight loss scams. So I logged in and changed my password and deleted my account again. Facebook tells you that it will take 30 days to delete your account. This is obviously user hostile bullshit. Meanwhile somehow the scammer…

Deleted my account around them. I've just valued privacy more as I've aged. I don't want to "connect" with people I have no interest in connecting with.

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Post by RestlessMind »

Ancalagon wrote: post #359
MikusR wrote: post #337

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Roblox? This Roblox? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32014754 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28247034

I never said it was a better company than Meta? Just that it paid similarly.

Well, the whole point is about "pay as well as Facebook and yet are a better corp for the world". So citing Roblox is pointless.

Re: Meta plans thousands more layoffs as soon as this week

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Post by RestlessMind »

Ancalagon wrote: post #361
RestlessMind wrote: post #338

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> especially if you're willing to work for just slightly less Well, in that entire list, following are the companies who don't make the world shittier: LinkedIn / Stripe / Databricks / Box / Cruise. (I will omit Waymo because its parent is Alphabet, which fails shittiness criteria). Box stock is flat since 2015. Databricks / Stripe are private so no liquidity. So only LinkedIn qualifies for "slightly less pay but not…

I mean FB stock is negative if you count people who joined in the last year...Even flat is better than that

Let's compare Apples to Apples? I was citing Box stock since 2015. FB is more than double its 2015 price.
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