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E-bandages lightly zap and heal wounds

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Re: E-bandages lightly zap and heal wounds

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I wondered why electricity would help a wound heal in the first place. > The inflammation associated with these wounds can disrupt the body’s normal electric signals, impeding the migration of new cells that can support the healing process.

Reminds me a bit of Michael Levin's work, where they use electrical signals to cause organisms to regrow limbs.

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#22

I wondered why electricity would help a wound heal in the first place. > The inflammation associated with these wounds can disrupt the body’s normal electric signals, impeding the migration of new cells that can support the healing process.

I suppose it's probably an unrelated effect, but electron beams are often used for sterilizing things like food, medical packaging, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron-beam_processing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_irradiation#Electron_beam

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I wondered why electricity would help a wound heal in the first place. > The inflammation associated with these wounds can disrupt the body’s normal electric signals, impeding the migration of new cells that can support the healing process.

your cells are sensitive to charge in general - cells attempt to maintain certain voltage differentials across their membranes via ion channels in the cell membrane, can communicate voltage information with each other via gap junctions, etc. That electrical communication does control how cells behave.

If you have 20 minutes to watch this ted talk interview I highly recommend it. My mind was blown. Your DNA determines the hardware, but there's a lot of non chemical communication that goes on between cells that determine how they behave.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XheAMrS8Q1c

Once you realize that cells can effectively communicate with each other via voltage, things like whats described about electrical bandages become less surprising.

If you've got a little more time (2 hours) there's a much longer more detailed interview here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0TNfysTazc

This is some next level stuff. Imagine DNA describes what your hardware looks like, but the software your cells run may be bioelectrical in large enough ways to consider that maybe your skin has some level cognition.

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I wondered why electricity would help a wound heal in the first place. > The inflammation associated with these wounds can disrupt the body’s normal electric signals, impeding the migration of new cells that can support the healing process.

Honestly, that is indistinguishable from the crystal mumbojumbo you get. And it feels like we're at the magic/science interface with electrotherapy. That said it is somewhat suspect, and the hypothesis is not really falsifiable by the experiment which is why the journal article itself is not claiming to test that. It is really disappointing that IEEE didn't actually link to or name the article directly. Very poor sci…

Nope ion concentration gradients (which also manifest as electrical potentials) serve to guide everything from white blood cells to the precursors of both replacement and scar tissue. You can mimic this signal directly by applying a potential difference.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S10849...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, that is indistinguishable from the crystal mumbojumbo you get. And it feels like we're at the magic/science interface with electrotherapy. That said it is somewhat suspect, and the hypothesis is not really falsifiable by the experiment which is why the journal article itself is not claiming to test that. It is really disappointing that IEEE didn't actually link to or name the article directly. Very poor sci…

Nope ion concentration gradients (which also manifest as electrical potentials) serve to guide everything from white blood cells to the precursors of both replacement and scar tissue. You can mimic this signal directly by applying a potential difference. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S10849...

I saw a lecture on bio electricity and it blew my mind. I love areas of science that seem like crystal woo that turn out to be legit. Scientific groupthink creates many opportunities…

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Would my body absorbing this metal be detrimental to my health in other ways?

The study, https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.ade4687 suggests in figure 1 that the device is 0.5mg of molybdenum and dissolves over an 18 day period, ~30µg/day. This is less than your recommended dietary allowance of 45µg/day and about two orders of magnitude under the tolerable upper intake level. You will also find in the study analysis of what compounds the molybdenum forms as it dissolves. Also, who knew…

There's a very big difference between ingesting products and having them absorbed in your body differently.

Re: E-bandages lightly zap and heal wounds

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, that is indistinguishable from the crystal mumbojumbo you get. And it feels like we're at the magic/science interface with electrotherapy. That said it is somewhat suspect, and the hypothesis is not really falsifiable by the experiment which is why the journal article itself is not claiming to test that. It is really disappointing that IEEE didn't actually link to or name the article directly. Very poor sci…

Nope ion concentration gradients (which also manifest as electrical potentials) serve to guide everything from white blood cells to the precursors of both replacement and scar tissue. You can mimic this signal directly by applying a potential difference. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S10849...

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Re: E-bandages lightly zap and heal wounds

#30

I wondered why electricity would help a wound heal in the first place. > The inflammation associated with these wounds can disrupt the body’s normal electric signals, impeding the migration of new cells that can support the healing process.

your cells are sensitive to charge in general - cells attempt to maintain certain voltage differentials across their membranes via ion channels in the cell membrane, can communicate voltage information with each other via gap junctions, etc. That electrical communication does control how cells behave. If you have 20 minutes to watch this ted talk interview I highly recommend it. My mind was blown. Your DNA determines…

That TED talk was great! Hoping to watch the other video tonight, thanks for sharing
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