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Google Groups has been left to die

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Re: Google Groups has been left to die

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post #207

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Which of the gulfwars are you even talking about? - Even Korea and Vietnam, which were big and had quite some cultural impact, are more and more forgotten.

If someone just says "The Gulf War" they almost always mean the 1990-1991 invasion of Iraq ("Desert Storm"): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War

Although during the 80s and until Desert Storm, the same term was applied to the Iran/Iraq war - which is another mostly forgotten thing despite the huge human cost.

(I realised after I typed the above that the wikipedia disambiguation page also links to the Iran/Iraq war anyway)

Re: Google Groups has been left to die

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post #7

As someone who uses a "real" usenet site and reader, cannot wait until google groups is gone. One of the many issues is "comp.lang.c++" items from google is being sent to "comp.lang.c" because a change google made cannot handle the "++". The sad thing is we may loose the history that came from dejanews, I was one of the many people who were very upset when dejanews was bought by google. No surprise it morphed into th…

While I also lament what Google Groups has become, let's not rewrite history. By 2001, Dejanews had rebranded as a shopping comparison site, ran out of money, and was on the verge of shutting down. I don't remember many people being upset about Google stepping in to save the archive. And, in the early days, the signs were positive. Google actually cared about it at that point, and still had a good reputation. They ex…

Yup, Deja destroyed itself - their interface and IIRC search got much worse before the end.

Re: Google Groups has been left to die

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post #7

As someone who uses a "real" usenet site and reader, cannot wait until google groups is gone. One of the many issues is "comp.lang.c++" items from google is being sent to "comp.lang.c" because a change google made cannot handle the "++". The sad thing is we may loose the history that came from dejanews, I was one of the many people who were very upset when dejanews was bought by google. No surprise it morphed into th…

Usenet still exists and is actually getting better with time. There's not much spam and the only people there left are geeks that care about the topic. The eternal september is over and it's time to start again. You can get text only access for your usenet client (or use a web interface) at https://www.eternal-september.org/ . I post on alt.startrek and alt.cyberpunk every now and then and get decent conversations. I…

Hmmm... thanks for the update and link to eternal september. The way things are these days, I think I'm pretty much ready to try a return to usenet.

Ironically although not a student or AOL user back then, my usage of usenet was after eternal september....

Re: Google Groups has been left to die

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post #44

Google Groups is heavily used within Google's ecosystem. Specifically it is: - a system for managing group-based access for Google Workspace users, e.g. share a Google Doc with a group to give all members access - a system for managing group-based access to Google Cloud Platform resources, e.g. share a BigQuery table with a Google Group to give all group members access to it. - a simple way for Google Workspace users…

Also, don't Google emails by default have a 6 months expiry and the Groups is a way to preserve knowledge instead of relying on emails?

By default there's no Gmail expiration (that I know of). Deleted messages are kept in the Trash folder for 30 days and then permanently deleted, but archived emails exist forever (provided you still have space left).

Re: Google Groups has been left to die

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post #142

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Usenet still exists and is actually getting better with time. There's not much spam and the only people there left are geeks that care about the topic. The eternal september is over and it's time to start again. You can get text only access for your usenet client (or use a web interface) at https://www.eternal-september.org/ . I post on alt.startrek and alt.cyberpunk every now and then and get decent conversations. I…

alt.folklore computers comp.unix* comp.misc comp.lang.* comp.infosystems.gemini comp.infosystems.gopher

And if you want to see idiots fighting, comp.os.linux.advocacy

Re: Google Groups has been left to die

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post #82

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AtariAge.com[1] - first created in 1988, or 25 years ago. Run by some bloke on the internet. The problem for Google Groups is that no-one can perf-farm it any more, which is the sole reason for projects to survive at Google... 1: https://atariage.com/about.php

> first created in 1988, or 25 years ago 1988 was 35 years ago. I know, hard to believe... want to know something even more shocking?? People who are today 18 years old were born in 2005!

> People who are today 18 years old were born in 2005!

That’s absurd. I’m only 35 years old. 2005 can’t be that long ago.

checks

Damn…

Re: Google Groups has been left to die

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post #82

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> first created in 1988, or 25 years ago 1988 was 35 years ago. I know, hard to believe... want to know something even more shocking?? People who are today 18 years old were born in 2005!

It's hard for even me to believe that I'll be turning 18 in a few months. All the responsibilities...

Responsibilities are relative. I very much enjoyed that -barring lack of money- I could just pick up and go anywhere any time I wanted.

Re: Google Groups has been left to die

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post #180

Google Groups has survived 22 years. How many self-hosted Discourse forums can say the same? If you're working on a new, small side-project like a new formal evaluator, are you going to want to spend your limited administrative bandwidth onboarding new contributors, responding to feature suggestions, talking to users, etc, or are you going to want to spend it trying to wrangle self-hosted forum administration and fig…

My account at gtaforums.com turned 20 this year, cripes. Site itself looks to be 21 years old. SomethingAwful has been around longer I'm pretty sure too.

Albino Balcksheep turned 24 this past January and is still going. Newgrounds will turn 28 this July. Feels like yesterday, still.
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