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Would my body absorbing this metal be detrimental to my health in other ways?

There's a lot of medical technology that involves sticking metal inside of people permanently , as long as they're making it out of the right kind of metal it's hard to believe it would be an issue to stick it on your skin.

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There's a lot of medical technology that involves sticking metal inside of people permanently , as long as they're making it out of the right kind of metal it's hard to believe it would be an issue to stick it on your skin.

I once dissected a titanium knee replacement that had been implanted in a human. The surrounding tissue was steel-grey from metallosis.

My mother had a metal mesh implant for a knee injury in the 70's and later had to have it extracted and her entire knee replaced.

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Would my body absorbing this metal be detrimental to my health in other ways?

Acute toxicity of molybdenum (Mo), the metal in question, has not been seen in humans, and the toxicity depends strongly on the chemical state. Studies on rats show a median lethal dose (LD50) as low as 180 mg/kg for some Mo compounds. Although human toxicity data is unavailable, animal studies have shown that chronic ingestion of more than 10 mg/day of molybdenum can cause diarrhea, growth retardation, infertility,…

I'm no doctor, but that does sound rather unpleasant.

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Would my body absorbing this metal be detrimental to my health in other ways?

Acute toxicity of molybdenum (Mo), the metal in question, has not been seen in humans, and the toxicity depends strongly on the chemical state. Studies on rats show a median lethal dose (LD50) as low as 180 mg/kg for some Mo compounds. Although human toxicity data is unavailable, animal studies have shown that chronic ingestion of more than 10 mg/day of molybdenum can cause diarrhea, growth retardation, infertility,…

180mg/kg is 10 grams for a 55 kg (=fairly lightweight) human.

Also, 10mg/day in which animals? I would guess animals that are a lot smaller than humans, possibly even mice (weight: less than 1/1000 of that of a human)

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Would my body absorbing this metal be detrimental to my health in other ways?

The study, https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.ade4687 suggests in figure 1 that the device is 0.5mg of molybdenum and dissolves over an 18 day period, ~30µg/day. This is less than your recommended dietary allowance of 45µg/day and about two orders of magnitude under the tolerable upper intake level.

You will also find in the study analysis of what compounds the molybdenum forms as it dissolves.

Also, who knew they were supposed to be getting molybdenum every day? Somehow I feel a bit more cyborgy now, like maybe there is a tiny gear in me somewhere that needs to be greased.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a lot of medical technology that involves sticking metal inside of people permanently , as long as they're making it out of the right kind of metal it's hard to believe it would be an issue to stick it on your skin.

I once dissected a titanium knee replacement that had been implanted in a human. The surrounding tissue was steel-grey from metallosis.

Isn't that a unique property of titanium and part of why it's chosen for skeletal implants?

When a buddy got a damaged tooth replaced with an implant, he showed me medical scans of the titanium rod in-situ with the surrounding bone highlighted as growing into the rod as if they had an affinity for one another. It was part of a document explaining the safety and why titanium was chosen, how the body doesn't reject the material as foreign etc.

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Would my body absorbing this metal be detrimental to my health in other ways?

There's a lot of medical technology that involves sticking metal inside of people permanently , as long as they're making it out of the right kind of metal it's hard to believe it would be an issue to stick it on your skin.

I have metal in my body planted without my consent via an explosive device and the doctors don't care to take it out. The risk of infection outweighs the risk of it staying in my body.

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I wondered why electricity would help a wound heal in the first place. > The inflammation associated with these wounds can disrupt the body’s normal electric signals, impeding the migration of new cells that can support the healing process.

Honestly, that is indistinguishable from the crystal mumbojumbo you get. And it feels like we're at the magic/science interface with electrotherapy.

That said it is somewhat suspect, and the hypothesis is not really falsifiable by the experiment which is why the journal article itself is not claiming to test that. It is really disappointing that IEEE didn't actually link to or name the article directly. Very poor science journalism there.

The article is that they observed this process working, not why it works. Maybe it works because it kills bacteria...?

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Would my body absorbing this metal be detrimental to my health in other ways?

The study, https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.ade4687 suggests in figure 1 that the device is 0.5mg of molybdenum and dissolves over an 18 day period, ~30µg/day. This is less than your recommended dietary allowance of 45µg/day and about two orders of magnitude under the tolerable upper intake level. You will also find in the study analysis of what compounds the molybdenum forms as it dissolves. Also, who knew…

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