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mate, on-prem is dead. it's not just atlassian, it's most software that can be run as saas. when people run on-prem they get hacked, for failing to patch or doing something equally ignorant, which ironically makes atlassian look bad. plus they would have to maintain 2 versions of the software, the saas version and the on-prem. just not worth it. better in invest in making their cloud better (get FedRAMP, etc)
On prem is definitely not dead. I know a few angry Atlassian customers that are now forced to shelling out 50k a year so they can continue to use jira on prem because it is still cheaper than migrating to an alternative. Not every one can dump their data into some cloud that is located somewhere in the void.
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mate, on-prem is dead. it's not just atlassian, it's most software that can be run as saas. when people run on-prem they get hacked, for failing to patch or doing something equally ignorant, which ironically makes atlassian look bad. plus they would have to maintain 2 versions of the software, the saas version and the on-prem. just not worth it. better in invest in making their cloud better (get FedRAMP, etc)
On prem is definitely not dead. I know a few angry Atlassian customers that are now forced to shelling out 50k a year so they can continue to use jira on prem because it is still cheaper than migrating to an alternative. Not every one can dump their data into some cloud that is located somewhere in the void.
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Based on what I have seen in the last 30 years, the competition is even worse. If I would be a CTO, their products would be on the list.
Lightweight Kanban / issues hybrids like GitLab issues are good.
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a chunk of our executive team is resigning, that's how it should be done
which chunk? source?
I’m playing with GitHub projects and while it’s actually showing crazy potential it has the problem of being an intrinsically developer-focused solution to a business problem. Project management software isn’t about getting things done quite as much as it is about showing things getting done to the people who control the resources. Jira is how you get managers to add headcount. That’s the reason managers adopt it. Th…
Classic or V2? Because the latter feels half baked to me.
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which chunk? source?
VP Eng, CFO, VP client sales, VP customer success, numerous other Sr Dirs and Sr Mngrs and source is me I work at 300 person-ish company I'm talking about.
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I think you’re confusing your opinion with reality, the truth is Jira (I presume this is your real complaint?) is fine and works well enough for most people they can just get on with it.
I'm actually okay with Jira. I can't understand why they don't address performance, but I can roll with it because its not that abysmal. I honestly haven't seen something much better out there so it is what it is. It's confluence that I absolutely hate, thats where the performance and generally sad state of the UX gets to me. Bitbucket is even worse, but I had forgotten about its existence until recently because the…
Bitbucket is just entirely forgetful, I'm not surprised you have. I found it slow and cumbersome to use.
I'll add another highlight to the atlassian experience: their CI product, bamboo. Also very cumbersome to use. To give one example, if you are debugging a pipeline and want to run just some tests, you have to individually navigate to each test's page and settings subpage to click it on or off- so with a healthy number of tests, you'll really start to notice those slow page loads! (I recommend automating this task with selenium).
I personally dislike jira, but as they say: democracy is the worst form of government except for all the other forms that have been tried from time to time.