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Google Groups has been left to die

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Re: Google Groups has been left to die

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Post by webtv-user »

Scoundreller wrote: post #163
nightpool wrote: post #33

Google Groups has survived 22 years. How many self-hosted Discourse forums can say the same? If you're working on a new, small side-project like a new formal evaluator, are you going to want to spend your limited administrative bandwidth onboarding new contributors, responding to feature suggestions, talking to users, etc, or are you going to want to spend it trying to wrangle self-hosted forum administration and fig…

Arstechnica forums have been going on since 98 or so. But they had that Conde Nast money early on. What drives me bonkers is when newspapers just wipe out their historical comments sections. Like… archiving people’s thoughts is supposed to be what you do!

Thoughts…

That is a generous term to describe what you'd find in newspaper sites' comment sections!

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Post by TedDoesntTalk »

trvz wrote: post #210
ryanwhitney wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Groups.io was founded by Mark Fletcher[0], who in '97 started the mailing list service that Yahoo! eventually bought and turned into their Groups product. They're about 10 years in and he posts weekly changelogs and updates[1]. Nonetheless, they're small and one might guess there's a high bus factor here. (Sorry Mark!) I think it's a toss up either way. I hadn't seen talk of Google Groups being internally significant…

> They're about 10 years in and he posts weekly changelogs and updates[1]. This isn't quite the brag you think it is. 10 years in, a product like this should be mostly fleshed out. On the linked page, I'm seeing design as well as technical changes mentioned. Also, they apparently only started working on translations recently.

Unfortunately, nothing lasts forever. Once you accept that, your perspective on 10 years may change. It's a long time. I challenge anyone to find discussions of this type from 100 years ago. Even if it was recorded (unlikely), did it survive after all of the participants died (unlikely)? Yes, we have 100 year old newspapers, but 100 year old discussions about underwater knitting.

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Post by tick_tock_tick »

ttkciar wrote: post #191
tick_tock_tick wrote: post #185

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Are you just blanking out on the whole of the 1965-1980? Domestic terrorism has always been the wheelhouse of the left for the USA. It's only very recently the right has been getting involved and still has a long way to go to get close. Once we start getting monthly bombings we can call it "even" and then push it father to get to "an utterly dominant majority comes from the right wing" what revisionist history. Peopl…

> Are you just blanking out on the whole of the 1965-1980? If you have to dig back half a century to make your point about contemporary events, you have effectively ceded the point.

It was one of the politically violent periods that people are still alive, and it happened recently enough still working, from. I really don't think using the most extreme period in very recent history is ceding any point....

Re: Google Groups has been left to die

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Post by maxwell »

mybhslaptop wrote: post #182
brabel wrote: post #82

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> first created in 1988, or 25 years ago 1988 was 35 years ago. I know, hard to believe... want to know something even more shocking?? People who are today 18 years old were born in 2005!

It's hard for even me to believe that I'll be turning 18 in a few months. All the responsibilities...

I remember the feeling, back in 2005...

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Post by pentagrama »

5+ years ago I participate on a project who started a community from the ground up using a self-hosted https://discourse.org.

The experience was pretty great, the user experience in general is good, onboarding is straight forward, is mobile friendly, it has email and in-app notifications for replies, weekly digests and more. And you own the data!

Later down the road, a chat platform was necessary too, and we use Telegram channels for that. I remember considering some OSS/Self-Hosted options for that but Telegram was really easy and the trade-off was worth it.

Re: Google Groups has been left to die

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Post by thestepafter »

Is anyone else experiencing where they have a paid Google business subscription for Gmail, Drive, etc and receive emails about posts to their Google group but even as an admin you are unable to access the content in the links? I never setup Google groups for my company but I receive an alert every time a spammer posts something. There has been no response from Google support on this.

Re: Google Groups has been left to die

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Post by bitL »

nightpool wrote: post #33

Google Groups has survived 22 years. How many self-hosted Discourse forums can say the same? If you're working on a new, small side-project like a new formal evaluator, are you going to want to spend your limited administrative bandwidth onboarding new contributors, responding to feature suggestions, talking to users, etc, or are you going to want to spend it trying to wrangle self-hosted forum administration and fig…

Google Groups basically destroyed all Usenet competitors and now is going belly up itself, likely taking down a large portion of computing history with itself.
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