I miss the ubiquity of phpBB forums.
Why not Discourse? It has 34% of the discussion market now
The article answers that question.
Google Groups has been left to die
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#42As someone who uses a "real" usenet site and reader, cannot wait until google groups is gone. One of the many issues is "comp.lang.c++" items from google is being sent to "comp.lang.c" because a change google made cannot handle the "++". The sad thing is we may loose the history that came from dejanews, I was one of the many people who were very upset when dejanews was bought by google. No surprise it morphed into th…
If Google Groups is actually going to die would it not be worth scraping the history for at least some groups?
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#43Re: Google Groups has been left to die
#44Google Groups is heavily used within Google's ecosystem. Specifically it is:
- a system for managing group-based access for Google Workspace users, e.g. share a Google Doc with a group to give all members access
- a system for managing group-based access to Google Cloud Platform resources, e.g. share a BigQuery table with a Google Group to give all group members access to it.
- a simple way for Google Workspace users to create shared email addresses. e.g. support@mycompany.com
It serves these purposes quite well.
Re: Google Groups has been left to die
#45As someone who uses a "real" usenet site and reader, cannot wait until google groups is gone. One of the many issues is "comp.lang.c++" items from google is being sent to "comp.lang.c" because a change google made cannot handle the "++". The sad thing is we may loose the history that came from dejanews, I was one of the many people who were very upset when dejanews was bought by google. No surprise it morphed into th…
While I also lament what Google Groups has become, let's not rewrite history. By 2001, Dejanews had rebranded as a shopping comparison site, ran out of money, and was on the verge of shutting down. I don't remember many people being upset about Google stepping in to save the archive. And, in the early days, the signs were positive. Google actually cared about it at that point, and still had a good reputation. They expanded the archive with contributions from other sources and worked to improve the search and posting interfaces. Yes, eventually they lost interest and it degraded into the current abomination, but that happened later.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why not Discourse? It has 34% of the discussion market now
Can you link to research behind that? I'm really curious how this defines the "discussion" market.
Re: Google Groups has been left to die
#47So, how does one host a forum that will outlive the current ownership and members? What are the options out there? Create a collection at archive.org and do regular dumps there?
Re: Google Groups has been left to die
#48As an outsider, why wouldn't anyone just migrate this to Slack/Discord/etc?
Re: Google Groups has been left to die
#49Been a long slow decline, it’s frustrating to watch it degrade. Imagine being an engineer assigned to this unloved thing; or worse, a product manager. Career death.
https://groups.io is a good replacement for email lists. It’s mostly a for-pay product.
https://www.usenetarchives.com/ is a good search engine for pre-2000 Usenet. Like Google’s old Deja archive which has been nearly unusable via Google Groups for years now.
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