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Larry Page to Googlers: If You Don’t Get SPYW, Work Somewhere Else

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Re: Larry Page to Googlers: If You Don’t Get SPYW, Work Somewhere Else

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Post by libraryatnight »

Kylekramer wrote: post #20

It is quite the jump from “This is the path we’re headed down – a single unified, ‘beautiful’ product across everything. If you don’t get that, then you should probably work somewhere else" to "Agree with SPYW or GTFO". One is an admirable goal for a whale of a company and the other is a stubborn denial of contrary opinions. I thought Pando Daily was suppose to be a "different" tech news site.

I don't think Sarah Lacy is capable of producing a "different" tech news site, really. The article read like a tabloid.

Re: Larry Page to Googlers: If You Don’t Get SPYW, Work Somewhere Else

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Post by Lammy »

Arelius wrote: post #16
Lammy wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I went back to hosting my own email and chat on VPS. Check out iRedMail for a nice easily-configured FOSS mail package and ejabberd for a nice XMPP server. XMPP federates with google talk, so I can still chat with @gmail.com friends.

Roundcube is a pretty poor email client when compared directly to gmail.

Agreed, but I mostly use K9-Mail and Thunderbird via IMAP. Roundcube is ok for quick access from a random computer.

Re: Larry Page to Googlers: If You Don’t Get SPYW, Work Somewhere Else

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Post by zheng »

kls wrote: post #28

I can't help but feel like this is the equivalent event of Ballmer throwing the chair. It's good to have decent among a company so long as it is promoted in a healthy manner, having employees grumble about it at the water cooler only serves to infect the ranks but promoting an open forum where any person can decent and others can rebut allows people to at least understand why the decision where made. In some manner t…

Not to nitpick, but it's "dissent". I learned the hard way (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3262893)

Re: Larry Page to Googlers: If You Don’t Get SPYW, Work Somewhere Else

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Post by Aloisius »

pg wrote: post #3

You don't have to get a job at another company. You could also start your own.

Serious question: have there been any success stories of ex-Googlers starting their own companies?

I've been under the impression that the few that have had successful exits were bought by Google itself, mostly as talent acquisitions.

Re: Larry Page to Googlers: If You Don’t Get SPYW, Work Somewhere Else

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Post by bjdixon »

pnathan wrote: post #29
bjdixon wrote: post #2

So, what are people using as alternatives these days? I use gmail, google talk and google.com exclusively for email, chat and search. If (for arguments sake) I wanted to switch what is there of similar quality that still be around and relevant in 3 or 4 years?

Email: I use my alumni account which happens to be Microsoft-based. Chat: IRC/AIM/Yahoo/etc - just grab something with a libpurple backend. Search: DuckDuckGo most of the time, Google otherwise.

DuckDuckGo seems to have come up a couple of times. I'll give it a trial.

Re: Larry Page to Googlers: If You Don’t Get SPYW, Work Somewhere Else

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Post by cbs »

Guys, unless you're actually a player, save yourself the headache and don't get caught up in this little valley tiff.

I think SPYW is dumb, but google is trying something to improve search results, it happens to use data that they have on the user. I don't think they need permission from everyone in the valley with a sign-in service they can't crawl before they're allowed to make changes that are meant to improve search. So all the bitching about it really smells like the big guys trying to SEO through telling google that they can't change their algorithm in a way that they lose rank.

Re: Larry Page to Googlers: If You Don’t Get SPYW, Work Somewhere Else

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Post by bjdixon »

ComputerGuru wrote: post #10
bjdixon wrote: post #2

So, what are people using as alternatives these days? I use gmail, google talk and google.com exclusively for email, chat and search. If (for arguments sake) I wanted to switch what is there of similar quality that still be around and relevant in 3 or 4 years?

Google Talk is plain vanilla XMPP (except the audio/video extensions), and any XMPP server can chat to any Google Talk user. The Google Talk client itself is shit and hasn't been updated in years, you won't be missing out on anything there . I use Mail.app w/ GMail over IMAP and have no problems. I could switch to any other provider of course, but see no reason to do so as accessing GMail over IMAP doesn't have any o…

I agree with the google talk. The most replaceable item on the list. It's just so easy though with it being there next to my email... I'll give ddg a go. See what's up there.

Re: Larry Page to Googlers: If You Don’t Get SPYW, Work Somewhere Else

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Post by bjdixon »

vyrotek wrote: post #8
bjdixon wrote: post #2

So, what are people using as alternatives these days? I use gmail, google talk and google.com exclusively for email, chat and search. If (for arguments sake) I wanted to switch what is there of similar quality that still be around and relevant in 3 or 4 years?

I'm not being facetious when I say try Microsoft - Hotmail, Office365, Live Messenger, Bing

I know. I'm not a hater.. really =) I just can't seem to make myself go back to MS stuff. I guess it's an old prejudice, I'm stubborn to my own detriment?
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