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Re: Microsoft Designer

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Post by jimbokun »

injidup wrote: post #61
hiisukun wrote: post #48

I feel a deep sadness, a sympathy, or sense of loss for the countless artists who have toiled to produce beautiful works over the decades (centuries?), just for them to be approximated by a single click as a vector mashup in an AI generative search space. And without so much as a by your leave. I'm not saying it's logical to be against AI image generation, but definitely have a feeling that something has gone wrong h…

I was in the "Alte Pinoteke" in Munich, Germany, on Sunday. It is a fabulous gallery full of huge and old master paintings. There was a certain 4 frame series with each frame about 5m long by 3m high. Each was an architectural study of Rome with each being from a different view direction. What struck me was the text written below the paintings which indicated that the artist, after *3 years of work*, had been quoted…

There is a reason the art you were looking at was in a museum, and images generated by AI tools is not.

There is something impressive and inspiring about the process those artists went through, embedded in the physical work itself. Like we are impressed watching someone running a marathon, even though they could cover the same distance much more quickly in a car.

Re: Microsoft Designer

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Post by Karellen »

imgabe wrote: post #119
hiisukun wrote: post #48

I feel a deep sadness, a sympathy, or sense of loss for the countless artists who have toiled to produce beautiful works over the decades (centuries?), just for them to be approximated by a single click as a vector mashup in an AI generative search space. And without so much as a by your leave. I'm not saying it's logical to be against AI image generation, but definitely have a feeling that something has gone wrong h…

Art, in terms of creating a beautiful rendition of some part of the real world or even a fantastical but recognizable scene has not been a big part of the mainstream capital-A Art market for over a hundred years. Nobody cares if you can paint really well or whatever. Art schools churn out thousands of people a year who can do that. Artworks since at least Duchamp have been more about some abstract concept rather than…

Well, if there's one thing that ChatGPT is good at, it's churning out convincing BS.

Re: Microsoft Designer

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Post by Karellen »

another2another wrote: post #145
bryanrasmussen wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The current design ideas in MS products are terrible so I doubt how much AI can help that. you mean - the problem with Microsoft is they have no taste?

Yes. And I mean that in a BIG way.

In the sense that they don't think of original ideas, and they don't bring much culture into their product?

Re: Microsoft Designer

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Post by jodrellblank »

jimbokun wrote: post #171
injidup wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was in the "Alte Pinoteke" in Munich, Germany, on Sunday. It is a fabulous gallery full of huge and old master paintings. There was a certain 4 frame series with each frame about 5m long by 3m high. Each was an architectural study of Rome with each being from a different view direction. What struck me was the text written below the paintings which indicated that the artist, after *3 years of work*, had been quoted…

There is a reason the art you were looking at was in a museum, and images generated by AI tools is not. There is something impressive and inspiring about the process those artists went through, embedded in the physical work itself. Like we are impressed watching someone running a marathon, even though they could cover the same distance much more quickly in a car.

But you aren't saying that "Google trying to build a self-driving car is the biggest triple-E (Embrace Extend Extinguish) bait-and-switch in its history and completely unfair on marathon runners who, if it had any morals, it would be striving to pay".

Re: Microsoft Designer

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Post by MikusR »

muststopmyths wrote: post #110
calciphus wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait I'm genuinely curious: what's wrong with Calculator?

To name just one thing that bugs me: You can't switch modes with function keys any more. Previously you could go between Scientific,Programmer, etc. with function keys and now you have to use the miserable hamburger menu. I absolutely hate the UI as well, but that's probably subjective. For example, why isn't the input area clearly distinct instead of blending into the surrounding with no border ?

Which Windows had the switching with Function keys? I just tested with the one from windows 7 and you switch modes with alt+number. Function keys are only used in programmer mode to switch between hex/dex. Those same shortcuts work in the new one. Same with the one from XP that has only two modes, but you can't switch between them using alt+number.

Re: Microsoft Designer

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Post by CharlesW »

atlgator wrote: post #175

Is this Microsoft's answer to Figma? What's the overlap?

> Is this Microsoft's answer to Figma?

It's much different. As pupileater (who posted earlier in the thread and has tried it) put it, "It feels like nothing more than a limited Canva¹ with a sub-par version of Dall-E 2".

Where Figma is a tool for UI/UX designers, this (like Microsoft's WordArt) is aimed squarely at non-designers.

¹ Which is like Adobe Express (formerly Adobe Spark), if you're not familiar with Canva.

Re: Microsoft Designer

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Post by des1nderlase »

hiisukun wrote: post #48

I feel a deep sadness, a sympathy, or sense of loss for the countless artists who have toiled to produce beautiful works over the decades (centuries?), just for them to be approximated by a single click as a vector mashup in an AI generative search space. And without so much as a by your leave. I'm not saying it's logical to be against AI image generation, but definitely have a feeling that something has gone wrong h…

To offer counter perspective, how is this different than any craftmanship being replaced for centuries by mass scale factories and automation. Is this is just the last wave of workforce displacement by automation?
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