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Re: Microsoft Designer

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Post by alpaca128 »

injidup wrote: post #61
hiisukun wrote: post #48

I feel a deep sadness, a sympathy, or sense of loss for the countless artists who have toiled to produce beautiful works over the decades (centuries?), just for them to be approximated by a single click as a vector mashup in an AI generative search space. And without so much as a by your leave. I'm not saying it's logical to be against AI image generation, but definitely have a feeling that something has gone wrong h…

I was in the "Alte Pinoteke" in Munich, Germany, on Sunday. It is a fabulous gallery full of huge and old master paintings. There was a certain 4 frame series with each frame about 5m long by 3m high. Each was an architectural study of Rome with each being from a different view direction. What struck me was the text written below the paintings which indicated that the artist, after *3 years of work*, had been quoted…

> I can only assume that the same arguments and complaints were raised at every stage a new technology was introduced that lowered the cost and time to produce "content".

Which of those technologies were based on billions of copyright violations? And of course this copyright still exists but is only enforced in one direction, just like on YouTube where random corporations can claim copyright on any video and hurt the income of actual creators without negative consequences. AI will likely not improve this situation.

I'll think differently about that comparison if it is possible for random people to legally train models & create images from Disney's intellectual property on affordable hardware. But I don't have any false hope that equivalent enforcement of copyright will be a reality in the foreseeable future.

Re: Microsoft Designer

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Post by pupileater »

I had the opportunity to try it out but it doesn't offer any purpose other than "generate instagram post with some inaccurate image generation". It feels like nothing more than a limited Canva with a sub-par version of Dall-E 2. Every other design tool offers way faster workflows, even for non-designers. Currently Microsoft Designer is requiring too much intuition and pre-planning on the user's part for a meaningful and optimized workflow. Currently this solves nothing. The UI looks great though (don't know about UX, it's kinda like web3-we-dont-know-what-to-do-it-with-yet)

Re: Microsoft Designer

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Post by rdemaria »

rvz wrote: post #86
hiisukun wrote: post #48

I feel a deep sadness, a sympathy, or sense of loss for the countless artists who have toiled to produce beautiful works over the decades (centuries?), just for them to be approximated by a single click as a vector mashup in an AI generative search space. And without so much as a by your leave. I'm not saying it's logical to be against AI image generation, but definitely have a feeling that something has gone wrong h…

What artists? They will just move to physical art pieces and charge more for that once commissioned to do that. This only affects digital artists; not those who do physical art, sculptures and hard back paintings. HN only tells me that almost none of you have even visited a modern art museum.

Generative 3D models for 3D printing will be coming soon, I guess...

Re: Microsoft Designer

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Post by injidup »

m4lvin wrote: post #90
injidup wrote: post #61

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I was in the "Alte Pinoteke" in Munich, Germany, on Sunday. It is a fabulous gallery full of huge and old master paintings. There was a certain 4 frame series with each frame about 5m long by 3m high. Each was an architectural study of Rome with each being from a different view direction. What struck me was the text written below the paintings which indicated that the artist, after *3 years of work*, had been quoted…

Interesting example. Do you remember the name of the 4 frame series of paintings of Rome? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alte_Pinakothek

I think it might have been this sequence. https://www.pinakothek.de/kunst/johann-christian-reinhart/bl... though I suspect I remembered them a bit bigger than they actually were.

Re: Microsoft Designer

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Post by alpaca128 »

ly3xqhl8g9 wrote: post #16
calciphus wrote: post #12

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Wait I'm genuinely curious: what's wrong with Calculator?

"Windows 11 calculator is creating many problems such as the app surprisingly crashes, opens then immediately closes, or not performs as expected. Some people complain that the built-in Microsoft Store application does not work after they have received an update." [1] The fact that there are 14 ways to fix the Calculator app listed in this article, including even "Disable Windows Firewall temporarily", is simply beyo…

> the takeaway was: we must delete every software, destroy every CPU ever made, and start all over again.

Understandable sentiment, but good luck doing it any better than what we currently have. Every technology and the assumptions it was based on is outdated pretty soon.

Re: Microsoft Designer

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Post by smcl »

ly3xqhl8g9 wrote: post #16
calciphus wrote: post #12

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Wait I'm genuinely curious: what's wrong with Calculator?

"Windows 11 calculator is creating many problems such as the app surprisingly crashes, opens then immediately closes, or not performs as expected. Some people complain that the built-in Microsoft Store application does not work after they have received an update." [1] The fact that there are 14 ways to fix the Calculator app listed in this article, including even "Disable Windows Firewall temporarily", is simply beyo…

Microsoft also seem keen to deprecate two other simple Windows applications - Paint (being replaced with "Paint 3D") and Snipping Tool (to be replaced with "Snip & Sketch"). I don't understand it, it feels like they've started with the question "ok what if we replaced $tool?" rather than "what does $tool need to do?"

Re: Microsoft Designer

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Post by smcl »

diarrhea wrote: post #37
Anon4Now wrote: post #19

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I use it regularly. It seems fine to me, but I do wish it had copy and paste.

The technology just isn't there yet. I can recommend IPython, or just plain PowerShell for simple calculations.

Yeah, I use the Python REPL for any quick calculations - it's usually already open, it's fast and it is more flexible. I still think the default calculator should be quick and functional for those of us who don't do developer things.

Re: Microsoft Designer

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Post by SideQuark »

hiisukun wrote: post #48

I feel a deep sadness, a sympathy, or sense of loss for the countless artists who have toiled to produce beautiful works over the decades (centuries?), just for them to be approximated by a single click as a vector mashup in an AI generative search space. And without so much as a by your leave. I'm not saying it's logical to be against AI image generation, but definitely have a feeling that something has gone wrong h…

The same argument was made when player pianos came out, when records came out, when radio came out, when photography came out, when TV came out, yet there are likely more performers in every one of these categories than ever.

Making content production and duplication cheaper enables more people to consume it, requiring more of it, and more people end up working on the new systems. I suspect these tools will be no different.

Re: Microsoft Designer

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Post by beyondcompute »

Remember the days when most people who were on the internet could build their own websites? And those were rather unique, sometimes quaint and sincere? And you didn’t need a help from a solar-system-engulfing corporation to accomplish that? What if I told you that it is still possible? Or, have we as the tech community “succeeded” in making the barrier of entry so much higher?
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