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Post by incahoots »

uncletammy wrote: post #295
Overtonwindow wrote: post #215

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Banning TikTok is such a pointless exercise. So what, it just means that another service will pop up and take its place under a different name. The government can ban it all it wants, but it's not going away. Too simple of an app.

It doesnt need to stop TikTok. It just needs to slow it down long enough for one of the US competitors to eat up their marketshare. The end goal isnt protecting US citizens. It's weaponizing information to use against perceived threats, both foreign and domestic.

>It just needs to slow it down long enough for one of the US competitors to eat up their marketshare.

If I were Snapchat I would be making moves to jump at this opportunity. I feel they're positioned the best to take that market share out of all of the current competitors, for the simple fact they've kept their core UI & model virtually unchanged.

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Post by KaiserPro »

badpun wrote: post #205
KaiserPro wrote: post #121

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> Mark wants to go all in AI instead of Metaverse I see no evidence of that. The recent announcements are at best a re-org, or worse a cleanup of three+ reorgs where FAIR and others were subsumed into RL-R. It is clear that The Meta leadership doesn't really understand what they are doing. The first cut I suggest was designed to send a message to investors that meta is "serious" about something. I assume that this se…

> Boz: arrogance personified. None of the misteps in the last 4 years are ever his fault. It was market forces that meant that raybans failed, rather than releasing them before they were finished. the quest pro didn't sell, not boz's fault. The market wasnt ready for a capable device with absolutely no software support for the new features. Want to join your friend in a VR game? sure! just perform 15 clicks and wait…

> uber-overcomplicated shit, which was quick and convenient to develop, but now is harming the product.

Its not even as contrived as that. In meta, you don't get points for incremental improvements that make life easier for users. You get points for making a new widget that improves a single metric. That metric will most likely be something sub-team related, with little to no impact on the over all team or even product.

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Post by BoorishBears »

engmgrmgr wrote: post #59
BoorishBears wrote: post #54

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Except Meta also filtered with the same filters they used to form an engineering org around serving ads. I have pretty extensive experience in the embedded Android space and have worked on products everyone here knows, Meta reached out to me very excitedly, and when I let the recruiter know I don't do Leetcode they assured me the coding phone screen was a merely a formality and I'd do great. It took all my willpower…

Who are you trying to convince?

I dunno? I ended up not working at a company that fired thousands, was grievously injured by Apple flicking a switch that enabled sensible privacy defaults, squandered Carmack, and is losing to ultra conservative legacy institutions in an innovation driven space?

And according to Levels.FYI I'm making more than the average person with a comparable title at Meta, maybe because the same things that made Meta excited made me attractive to other employers without the random cargo cult filters...

But hey, maybe I'm just trying to convince that recruiter who definitely wasn't laid off.

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Post by BoorishBears »

foobarian wrote: post #198
aix1 wrote: post #82

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Call sort() to merge two sorted linked lists? (Which is what this sub-thread is discussing.)

It's a trick question. We would never use a linked list in the real world.

"What's a cache locality? Is it webscale?"

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Post by blue039 »

barbazoo wrote: post #264
blue039 wrote: post #259

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People have to eat. Maslow's hierarchy of needs and all that. Fact of the matter is Meta has problems almost no one else has. Acting like people will choose less pay and boring work over interesting work and more pay on a moral basis is a little naive. But I see you apparently have a political axe to grind. Meta is not a morally acceptable place to work I agree. However, if you were offered 350,000 USD to work on som…

> Acting like people will choose less pay and boring work over interesting work and more pay on a moral basis is a little naive. That's a bit simplistic. There is plenty of well paid meaningful or at least less destructive work than working for FB.

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Post by muro »

megaman8 wrote: post #273
muro wrote: post #252

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> Do people go to work at Facebook[1], Amazon, etc., expecting to still be working there long enough to see their kids graduate and go off to college? Sure, why not?

most people at these companies don't last very long. if you doubt that, just take a look at the average person's linkedIn or resume. You'll see the average tenure at a tech company is about 2 to 3 years.

While many people do job-hopping because they might get more money etc., others value stability, short commute, a project they like, their colleagues and more money is not as enticing. Even others found a cushy job they don't want to lose - many reasons to stay.

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Post by lisasays »

haliskerbas wrote: post #263
lisasays wrote: post #222

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Then again - after years of pulling down ridiculously inflated salaries, and under management that is objectively delusional - you all knew this was coming, right?

I'm jealous as well, but it's a shit time in the industry and economy to be laid off. Losing a job is tough. The affected people are likely just ICs, same as most of us here, clocking in and trying to feed their families and have a comfortable life. Let's have some empathy for each other.

You're right, of course - getting laid off really hurts. Like a sucker punch right to the gut.

The more we can do to detach our employment status from our feelings about ourselves (and in particular our sense of intrinsic value), therefore - despite all the negative messaging that reigns down upon us in this regard - the better.

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Post by throwawaylinux »

wil421 wrote: post #145
throwawaylinux wrote: post #90

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I think Musk is a breath of fresh air from the sterile, managed, corporate-speak drones. He already proved a lot of... "experts" wrong about the imminent implosion of twitter after he got rid of a bunch of people. I'm very interested to see how things go in the next few years. Here's his side of the story on that. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1633011448459964417 I have worked in companies with a lot of dead wo…

It’s not operating very well. Multiple public outages each weeks, 40% drop in income, and people are literally sleeping in bathrooms.

Works more or less the same as before really. There may be some differences but let's not pretend that many alleged experts were completely wrong in their predictions of imminent implosion. And I wonder how much expenses have dropped.

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Post by RestlessMind »

Ancalagon wrote: post #309
RestlessMind wrote: post #293

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Okay, let's start with "pay well" then. Edit: I cannot reply to barbazoo so will edit here - you still haven't provided me 5 names who "pay well".

"Better corp for the world" is subjective. "Pay well" but maybe not quite as well as Meta, and for our purposes I am excluding other FAANGs (except Waymo, sort of I guess): - Roblox - LinkedIn - Robinhood - Databricks - Bytedance - Box - Stripe - Two Sigma - Lyft - Uber - Instacart - Cruise - Doordash - Waymo - Airbnb - Pinterest Companies which imo have a more positive impact on the world than Meta: - Waymo/Cruise (…

Thanks for answering the question honestly. Looking at that list, I can see only LinkedIn / Databricks / Box / Cruise / Waymo as qualifying for "not making the world shittier" criteria. But quitting Meta to go work for another variant of social media like Roblox / Bytedance / Pinterest? Or Airbnb / Uber / Lyft / Instacart with lots of negative externalities by exploiting labor arbitrage? That doesn't really make any sense.
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