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Re: Meta plans thousands more layoffs as soon as this week

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Post by mbgerring »

megaman8 wrote: post #268
naraga wrote: post #231

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100%. after all the evil they did in the world i dont understand how are they able to retain so much talent working for them. do people dont give a f* about their impact to the world? many shake their heads after someone exposes engineering team working in rusian army configuring Iskanders yet the same people work for facebook that spreads worst dissinfos, sells user data and basically plays parts in genocides.

i really don't understand why people don't like facebook. they're no worse than apple or your ISP (now they're truely evil). dissinfo? just unusubscribe or don't follow that account? do you really want facebook censoring everything you can see or don't see based on political correctness? or some other filter? and how is it "selling user data". I've always found this to be wholly inaccurate. it's targetted advertiseme…

Here’s one: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/15/technology/myanmar-facebo...

Here’s another one: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/06/every...

Another: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/11/facebooks-...

Re: “no worse than Apple”: Apple implemented features to make my phone give me less notifications by default when I am driving, at work, or close to going to bed. These features are helpfully turned on by default. Contrast this with Facebook’s design philosophy of increasing the amount of time a user spends staring at their phone at all costs.

Apple’s tracking prevention has put such a huge hole in Facebook’s panopticon-like internet-wide surveillance scheme that it is almost certainly one of the causes of these layoffs. You ask “who wants untargeted ads,” and it turns out, when you give users a choice, the answer is “most people, actually.”

There is no rational basis for saying that Facebook is “no worse than Apple.” Facebook is an actively malign force in society, worldwide, and we would all be better off if they shut down completely.

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Post by ChatGTP »

hdjjhhvvhga wrote: post #270
ChatGTP wrote: post #254

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I just can't be bothered seeking out "stuff I like" on Instagram anymore, mostly I've seen it before etc, just feeling like I have better things to do lately. If I actually want to "watch" something, I open Youtube, seems to me like the content on there is 10x better. Each to their own.

I feel exactly the same. Maybe it's just a stage in one's life?

I think I’m just bored with the platform, same format, crappy engagement from other uses etc.

It was fun for a while but yeah, not really sure it’s worth my time, or that it ever really was.

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Post by RestlessMind »

Ancalagon wrote: post #283
RestlessMind wrote: post #274

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> there are many many places Can you please name 5 of those alternatives which pay as well as Facebook and yet are a better corp for the world?

Nit: they did say "pay well" not "pay as well". "Pay well" might mean less than Meta but still at a comfortable level, subjectively.

Okay, let's start with "pay well" then.

Edit: I cannot reply to barbazoo so will edit here - you still haven't provided me 5 names who "pay well".

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Post by s1artibartfast »

pilarphosol wrote: post #210
gwbas1c wrote: post #204

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Back in 2009-2010, when Facebook was going gangbusters, I used to joke that "Facebook is the new AOL." Now Facebook is the old AOL.

I think it’s hilarious that they went and changed their name to their worst idea. The term “metaverse” comes from Snow Crash , which is a dystopia. They would know this if they actually read.

The physical world of snow crash was a dystopian hellhole. The metaverse of snow crash was still step up from that physical world, at least for the protagonist. They were a corporate pizza boy slave in the real world, but in the metaverse they were cool and had power and agency.

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Post by uncletammy »

Overtonwindow wrote: post #215
i67vw3 wrote: post #138

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>Their only bet is to lobby congress to ban tiktok. Good point, the only way for 'Meta' shares to go up and for investors to have some confidence in 'Meta' is by Tiktok being banned in US (and other western countries like EU, Canada etc). Automatically, the advertising money which was to go to Tiktok will go to Instagram (via Reels).

Banning TikTok is such a pointless exercise. So what, it just means that another service will pop up and take its place under a different name. The government can ban it all it wants, but it's not going away. Too simple of an app.

It doesnt need to stop TikTok. It just needs to slow it down long enough for one of the US competitors to eat up their marketshare.

The end goal isnt protecting US citizens. It's weaponizing information to use against perceived threats, both foreign and domestic.

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Post by ROTMetro »

gymbeaux wrote: post #87
saagarjha wrote: post #60

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> Notice how things have gone quiet around Twitter lately. This was today: https://twitter.com/iamharaldur/status/1632843191773716481

Watching a grown man beg Elon musk for his job on a social media platform is not something I expected to ever see. It's been two weeks- if his paycheck didn't come through, he has his answer. Obviously a s-show led by Elon, but on LinkedIn especially I am seeing a lot of posts where these ex-FAANG employees, who usually score severance measured in months rather than days or weeks, and who were already raking in a $25…

I'm out of date but in the past if your company was acquired and you were retained, you had to stay X years at the new company in order for the acquisition to be considered complete and you to get your complete payout. Dude probably wanted to know am I actually fired, because, then you need to, you know, pay me for my company? Elon tried to ghost dude, but old boy's got receipts is my guess. Elon just spent $$$ to save ¢¢¢. But maybe acquisitions/retained founders is different today. Elon rules though fake 'Twitter transparency' that lacks all nuance and detail but does have 200% more memes so who knows.

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Post by supriyo-biswas »

megaman8 wrote: post #268
naraga wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

100%. after all the evil they did in the world i dont understand how are they able to retain so much talent working for them. do people dont give a f* about their impact to the world? many shake their heads after someone exposes engineering team working in rusian army configuring Iskanders yet the same people work for facebook that spreads worst dissinfos, sells user data and basically plays parts in genocides.

i really don't understand why people don't like facebook. they're no worse than apple or your ISP (now they're truely evil). dissinfo? just unusubscribe or don't follow that account? do you really want facebook censoring everything you can see or don't see based on political correctness? or some other filter? and how is it "selling user data". I've always found this to be wholly inaccurate. it's targetted advertiseme…

> and how is it "selling user data". I've always found this to be wholly inaccurate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onavo

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Post by barbazoo »

RestlessMind wrote: post #293
Ancalagon wrote: post #283

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Nit: they did say "pay well" not "pay as well". "Pay well" might mean less than Meta but still at a comfortable level, subjectively.

Okay, let's start with "pay well" then. Edit: I cannot reply to barbazoo so will edit here - you still haven't provided me 5 names who "pay well".

It obviously depends on where you live and what you consider good pay. I get that. Personally, being in the situation of earning >2x the median household income where I live, which is one of the HCOL areas in NA, I consider myself unimaginably lucky. But that level of income isn't uncommon here for senior devs.

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Post by adharmad »

pelagicAustral wrote: post #188
jackmott42 wrote: post #159

Back in ~2016 I deleted my Facebook account, because it was a horrible place that brought out the worst in people. A few days ago someone alerted me that my account was live again and posting weight loss scams. So I logged in and changed my password and deleted my account again. Facebook tells you that it will take 30 days to delete your account. This is obviously user hostile bullshit. Meanwhile somehow the scammer…

I deleted my account circa 2016 as well... Far as I can remember, they force you to suspend your own account for 30 days before being able to apply for a full deletion, but that takes 90 days, if at any point you log back in within the 90 days, the whole process is restarted. And this bullshit was only after you went through a squid game tier UI Olympics just to find the place where to kick off the process.

Facebook is one of the most end-user-hostile companies ever. No interface is what it seems to be.

Even downloading your own pictures is very difficult with the actual image hidden in some weird link in a maze of javascript. And the original one can never be downloaded - only a crummy scaled down version. It is a one-way trap.

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Post by TchoBeer »

supriyo-biswas wrote: post #297
megaman8 wrote: post #268

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i really don't understand why people don't like facebook. they're no worse than apple or your ISP (now they're truely evil). dissinfo? just unusubscribe or don't follow that account? do you really want facebook censoring everything you can see or don't see based on political correctness? or some other filter? and how is it "selling user data". I've always found this to be wholly inaccurate. it's targetted advertiseme…

> and how is it "selling user data". I've always found this to be wholly inaccurate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onavo

Of course it's Israeli too. Gosh I hate my country sometimes.
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