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Re: Meta plans thousands more layoffs as soon as this week

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post #160

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Like many tech companies during zero interest rates, they over hired and did not anticipate interest rates going up so fast. At least these employees probably made a ton of money.

This has nothing to do with interest rates, none of these companies are borrowing to hire. And Meta, Amazon, Salesforce etc are only shedding excess pandemic hires. If you look at a graph of hires over a decade, the pandemic shows a huge blip up, and these layoffs correct that.

>And Meta, Amazon, Salesforce etc are only shedding excess pandemic hires. If you look at a graph of hires over a decade, the pandemic shows a huge blip up, and these layoffs correct that.

I think you're arguing against yourself.

Why do you think there was a huge blip up during the pandemic? Because their revenue was increasing at a faster rate, so they hired to sustain the increase in revenue and they believed the growth rate will continue. Why was revenue increasing at a faster rate? Two reasons. First, zero interest rates meant that people had more money to spend than before. Second, staying at home meant that people didn't have much else to spend their money on except tech/internet.

Re: Meta plans thousands more layoffs as soon as this week

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post #88

Two rounds of layoffs seems to say something that one round doesn't. You would expect that all things being equal there is never a scenario where it is better to do two cuts instead of just one. So why? a) things were much worse than realised. Maybe but it would have to be a big shock coming because Meta's general performance has held up OK, certainly nothing that would warrant this. b) HR reasons? some sort of requi…

Curious to see if the 2nd phase applies more to countries they operate in that don't have "at will employment" style legislation, it might go some way to explaining the two phases. That would fit into your point b).

IIRC, the first set of layoffs largely affected the US a lot more than Europe - its a much more involved legal process generally to perform layoffs in cities like London vs their US offices and often can't be done as quickly.

Re: Meta plans thousands more layoffs as soon as this week

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People will say it's their compensation but there are many many places that pay well that don't make the world a shittier place. One doesn't have to sell their soul to the highest bidder.

> there are many many places Can you please name 5 of those alternatives which pay as well as Facebook and yet are a better corp for the world?

Nit: they did say "pay well" not "pay as well".

"Pay well" might mean less than Meta but still at a comfortable level, subjectively.

Re: Meta plans thousands more layoffs as soon as this week

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post #112

Somehow the phrase that struck me as most absurd from the whole article was: > Some employees expressed worry about whether they’d receive their bonuses, which are set to be distributed this month, if they lose their jobs beforehand I would have thought, if you get a bonus, you are a valued employee and safe from layoffs? So getting a bonus despite being fired should be out of the question?

It's an annual bonus paid out on a fixed schedule. So there's a timing component.

Re: Meta plans thousands more layoffs as soon as this week

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post #88

Two rounds of layoffs seems to say something that one round doesn't. You would expect that all things being equal there is never a scenario where it is better to do two cuts instead of just one. So why? a) things were much worse than realised. Maybe but it would have to be a big shock coming because Meta's general performance has held up OK, certainly nothing that would warrant this. b) HR reasons? some sort of requi…

The first round is low hanging fruit and the second round is done after restructuring where more targeted cuts need to be made.

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Back in ~2016 I deleted my Facebook account, because it was a horrible place that brought out the worst in people. A few days ago someone alerted me that my account was live again and posting weight loss scams. So I logged in and changed my password and deleted my account again. Facebook tells you that it will take 30 days to delete your account. This is obviously user hostile bullshit. Meanwhile somehow the scammer…

Did you revoke all your oAuth tokens? While a password reset should do that (as should account inactivation) I wouldn't put it past FB to goose retention numbers by not automatically doing this.

Re: Meta plans thousands more layoffs as soon as this week

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Back in 2009-2010, when Facebook was going gangbusters, I used to joke that "Facebook is the new AOL." Now Facebook is the old AOL.

I think it’s hilarious that they went and changed their name to their worst idea. The term “metaverse” comes from Snow Crash , which is a dystopia. They would know this if they actually read.

Mark loved Snow Crash. He does actually read. That's the really sad part.

Re: Meta plans thousands more layoffs as soon as this week

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post #231

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100%. after all the evil they did in the world i dont understand how are they able to retain so much talent working for them. do people dont give a f* about their impact to the world? many shake their heads after someone exposes engineering team working in rusian army configuring Iskanders yet the same people work for facebook that spreads worst dissinfos, sells user data and basically plays parts in genocides.

i really don't understand why people don't like facebook. they're no worse than apple or your ISP (now they're truely evil). dissinfo? just unusubscribe or don't follow that account? do you really want facebook censoring everything you can see or don't see based on political correctness? or some other filter? and how is it "selling user data". I've always found this to be wholly inaccurate. it's targetted advertiseme…

I don’t think they are some evil scourge on humanity, but I also don’t like them and won’t work for them.

For a few reasons: they copy/steal or acquire all their new ideas, have diluted most of the real human element of their social network products into “promoted” content or “recommended” reel spam - leading to an “Instagram culture” of flexing and showing off to gain an audience.

But I do agree with you that “misinformation” and user data issues are blown out of proportion.

Re: Meta plans thousands more layoffs as soon as this week

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post #66

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My old boss who's still a director there said that it's been horrible since the Apple ATT changes, but then she's in ads. I always used to say that it's easy to be nice in a growth company, and that appears to have been proven out by recent events.

“It’s easy to be an angel in paradise”

Tell that to Adam.

Re: Meta plans thousands more layoffs as soon as this week

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post #51

I tried the new PS5 VR2. It’s definitely better than Oculus Quest. Makes you wonder what Facebook has been doing with all those billions spent on VR when Sony is able to produce a better product with a fraction of the investment.

How is it even a comparison? Meta Quest 2 costs $400 and runs fully standalone. PS5 VR2 costs $550 and has to be plugged into a $500 gaming console. Compare it to a Quest Pro (at $1000, so still cheaper) and it’ll be a different story.

Well, Quest 2 untethered can play a few very simple games but it also requires you to tether to a PC to play anything that doesn’t look like Minecraft. Sony could have a mobile phone GPU in theirs but.. why would they?
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