Plot twist: the layoffs are managed in Jira and the Jira admins spend so much time fiddling with Jira settings that they never get around to actually firing anyone.
They documented the layoffs
in Confluence and cannot find them anymore.
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#162Probably not a good image that Scott[1] and Mike[2] (via their respective trusts) have been quite busy liquidating 1,076,750 shares each into the public at a rate of 8,614 shares per trading day since the beginning of October last year...all the while laying off 5% of their workforce. Something about leaders eating last comes to mind... [1] https://www.sec.gov/edgar/browse/?CIK=0001666121 [2] https://www.sec.gov/edga…
How is this legal? Why are there always different rules for the managerial/ruling class…
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#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
postman, another shit product.
I actually find postman quite useful for the work I do (heavily api-related) - if you work in that space, what other tools would you recommend instead?
The problem I've had with Postman is the sharing between team members. Everyone needs to add new requests, edit (locally) but sometimes sav the edits back to the collection.
Someone has to modify the auth script and have it update for everyone.
I thought this is what the tool is designed for, but it's been a nightmare. Team members have to wipe their environment and start again regularly. I want to think that we've completely mucked up using it but I'm not sure it's us and not the tool.
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#164Based on the shitting on Jira going on in this thread, seems like Atlassian have an opportunity to introduce a (optional) simplified-UI that focuses on solving the most common workflow. Something like IntelliJ's "new" UI that reduces the clutter in the main screen (all the original knobs are still available in the Settings dialog).
They do already own trello! I remember rumours from when that buy-out happened that they’d turn trello into a new “view” for Jira projects as like a simplified version of the current Kanban board.
Don’t think that ever happened.
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#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
Did you not notice the explosion in bootcamps and online programs? Not to mention the huge expansion of existing CS programs. Tens of thousands joined the industry.
Next week I've got a call with an applicant to an open position in our company. He did one of those bootcamps, too, that's all he got as experience. I'm really curious how that will turn out...
Depends on the boot camp, but in my experience the juniors that come out of them have been considerably better than other applicants when it comes to things like TDD and security. That’s been drilled into them.
Where they typically fall down compared to juniors with CS degrees is a couple of years later, when the practice doesn’t make up for less fundamental knowledge. But that can be easily overcome with good management.
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#166Oh no, probably even less chance now that this 22 year old ticket will be attended to. https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/JRASERVER-1001 sadface
Or even just an option to turn of the default "spam everyone who ever touched this page whenever anyone touches it".
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#167Plot twist: the layoffs are managed in Jira and the Jira admins spend so much time fiddling with Jira settings that they never get around to actually firing anyone.
They documented the layoffs in Confluence and cannot find them anymore.
“Boss, I clicked the notification that you changed the layoff list, but now that the notification is gone I have no way of finding it, can you add a space to the bottom so I get another notification?”
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#168They should lay off 100% and go out of business. An entire generation of devs has suffered with Atlassian's broken, unscalable tooling. In my entire career I've never met someone who actually likes their products.
Developer here. I quite like Jira, I've never seen anything as fleshed out or complete as it is. At a previous startup, I used clubhouse.io, but I seriously missed Jira after a few months. I generally think Atlassian is a really solid company building good products and I really don't get the hatred. I'm also open to acceptable alternatives to Jira and Trello. Edit: ooh, just saw that they also own statuspage. And eve…
I agree. I don’t get the hatred for jira. I mean don’t complicate its usage. It’s a pretty awesome tool. It’s simple. Yeah, there’s some clicking but on the whole that’s on the person owning the project to customize.
I don’t mind bitbucket either. We self host both.
Re: Atlassian to shed 5 per cent of workers
#169Probably not a good image that Scott[1] and Mike[2] (via their respective trusts) have been quite busy liquidating 1,076,750 shares each into the public at a rate of 8,614 shares per trading day since the beginning of October last year...all the while laying off 5% of their workforce. Something about leaders eating last comes to mind... [1] https://www.sec.gov/edgar/browse/?CIK=0001666121 [2] https://www.sec.gov/edga…
How is this legal? Why are there always different rules for the managerial/ruling class…
why would it be illegal?
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#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
What? Name one product better than JIRA.
Linear
Linear is unfortunately too opinionated. At my last gig my manager wanted everybody to be using the same task tracker (understandably) and I wanted our team to move to a Kanban process because we evolved into the Infra/DevOps/IT team and ended up doing very little product work. At the time there was no way to operate in this paradigm as Linear forced you to use "Cycles" (a proprietary term for a time box) and it meant that we had to keep doing faux-Scrum.
I'm no particular JIRA fan and have had the misfortune of having had to administer an on-prem instance of it but the people who complain about it have clearly never used TFS or the bespoke solutions hacked together from off-the-shelf software (Domino, Sharepoint, Notion) that I've been exposed to. JIRA's a solid 6.8/10 and has always been far down the list of things that I'd change at any job I've had that uses it.