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Re: Say No to Ireland's SOPA

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Post by rmc » Tue, Jan 24, 2012, 4:04 PM UTC

davej wrote: post #4

donal_cahalane wrote: post #2

Since its been established that the Irish data protection commission has authority over Facebook (since their EMEA HQ is based in Ireland) what implications would this legislation have for FB I wonder? I know Facebook passed the recent privacy audit that the commission carried out but would the ability of record/movie companies etc. to have offending sites blocked through the courts here would obviously affect FB rig…

I don't believe the final text has been released yet but my understanding is that it wouldn't effect Facebook anymore than it would effect a website which doesn't have a base in Ireland. The law is 'SOPA-like' because it gives Irish courts the right to tell an ISP or hosting service or other third party to block the site. It is unclear at this time if infringing websites will be given notice that they are about to be…

The scary thing is that they are trying to get this passed without a vote in parliament.

But, unlike the USA, a vote in parliament is a rubber stamp of government's opinion, based on the party whip being used, and pairing with the opposition parties.

Re: Say No to Ireland's SOPA

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Post by alan_cx » Tue, Jan 24, 2012, 4:22 PM UTC

This will pass. There are no big sites or organisations backing the opposition so there will be no world effecting black out or protest. Boot licking allies of the US gov will implement SOPA like legislation for them.

Re: Say No to Ireland's SOPA

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Post by johnc055 » Tue, Jan 24, 2012, 4:23 PM UTC

disgruntledphd2 wrote: post #10

Can you provide a link to the S.I. itself on the page? I'd like to read the damn thing before calling my TD's.

Mr Sherlock said he would “tweet complete clarification shortly”.

Irish Times article with more information: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0124/break...

BTW, I just posted the link to HN, I've no affiliation with the site. Fully support what they're trying to do though.

Re: Say No to Ireland's SOPA

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Post by handelaar » Tue, Jan 24, 2012, 4:24 PM UTC

disgruntledphd2 wrote: post #10

Can you provide a link to the S.I. itself on the page? I'd like to read the damn thing before calling my TD's.

You'll see it after it's been signed by Richard Bruton and it appears in Iris Oifiguil. That's rather the point here.

Re: Say No to Ireland's SOPA

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Post by moylan » Tue, Jan 24, 2012, 4:34 PM UTC

johnc055 wrote: post #13

disgruntledphd2 wrote: post #10

Can you provide a link to the S.I. itself on the page? I'd like to read the damn thing before calling my TD's.

Mr Sherlock said he would “tweet complete clarification shortly”. Irish Times article with more information: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0124/break... BTW, I just posted the link to HN, I've no affiliation with the site. Fully support what they're trying to do though.

he'll also be on rte radio show drivetime after 1800. https://twitter.com/#!/drivetimerte/status/16183954268344320...

you can find links for listening online here. http://www.rte.ie/radio/

Re: Say No to Ireland's SOPA

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Post by handelaar » Tue, Jan 24, 2012, 4:40 PM UTC

NSMeta wrote: post #3

Just a minor suggestion. When I signed the petition, the link that says "Find out what else you can do" at the bottom does not work for me. (Windows 7, Chrome 16)

Sabrina (who put the site up, and who I'm married to) reports that we think that's fixed, and thanks you for telling her.

I'll say this: Linode rocks. It's getting battered here and seems to be barely breaking sweat.

Action count just hit 14,000 since last night at 10pm local time.

Re: Say No to Ireland's SOPA

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Post by kiloaper » Tue, Jan 24, 2012, 5:01 PM UTC

So an honest question for the sites operators, who appear to be an injury solicitors. What's the deal with your Privacy Policy [1]? Is it a copy/paste from another site or did you mean it to be that bad? It's the reason I'm telling people not to supply the site with any personal details. It clearly says details will be used for "market analysis" (whatever that means) and the site operators can contact (spam) people by any means of communication the user gives them. I can't see a way to opt-out. I don't want to come across as offensive but I care about my privacy.

[1] http://stopsopaireland.com/privacy/

Re: Say No to Ireland's SOPA

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Post by iceberg » Tue, Jan 24, 2012, 5:02 PM UTC

Thanks for posting this! I was completely unaware of this being pushed through.

Re: Say No to Ireland's SOPA

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Post by handelaar » Tue, Jan 24, 2012, 5:24 PM UTC

kiloaper wrote: post #17

So an honest question for the sites operators, who appear to be an injury solicitors. What's the deal with your Privacy Policy [1]? Is it a copy/paste from another site or did you mean it to be that bad? It's the reason I'm telling people not to supply the site with any personal details. It clearly says details will be used for "market analysis" (whatever that means) and the site operators can contact (spam) people b…

Yeah, it looks like it's been dragged over from the solicitors' other sites, which have entirely different purposes.

(I just had a word in person - I'm the one keeping the server up but that's the beginning and ending of my involvement.)

Response: "Yes. Sorry. That needs fixing and will be fixed asafp. We're not going to mail people, and 'market analysis' means 'analytics' in this case but is moot because we have none enabled anyway. It'll get removed/replaced as soon as the phones stop melting and we can put 10 mins into it."

Re: Say No to Ireland's SOPA

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Post by kiloaper » Tue, Jan 24, 2012, 5:29 PM UTC

handelaar wrote: post #19

kiloaper wrote: post #17

So an honest question for the sites operators, who appear to be an injury solicitors. What's the deal with your Privacy Policy [1]? Is it a copy/paste from another site or did you mean it to be that bad? It's the reason I'm telling people not to supply the site with any personal details. It clearly says details will be used for "market analysis" (whatever that means) and the site operators can contact (spam) people b…

Yeah, it looks like it's been dragged over from the solicitors' other sites, which have entirely different purposes. (I just had a word in person - I'm the one keeping the server up but that's the beginning and ending of my involvement.) Response: "Yes. Sorry. That needs fixing and will be fixed asafp. We're not going to mail people, and 'market analysis' means 'analytics' in this case but is moot because we have non…

That's great. To be honest I'm guilty of copy/paste Privacy Policy and Terms and Conditions myself. :)