Two rounds of layoffs seems to say something that one round doesn't. You would expect that all things being equal there is never a scenario where it is better to do two cuts instead of just one. So why? a) things were much worse than realised. Maybe but it would have to be a big shock coming because Meta's general performance has held up OK, certainly nothing that would warrant this. b) HR reasons? some sort of requi…
Could it be that since Twitter hasn't collapsed yet people are trying to pull a Musk headcount-wise (albeit in a better executed manner) ?
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From what I understand, he would like to be remembered similarly to Steve Jobs, as an inventor of the future. I think this was his way of doing that.
People loved Steve Jobs though whereas people hate Mark.
He just had really, really good marketing, and products that landed at just the right time.
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It takes a certain kind of cold detatchment to hire 5,000-10,000 people to r&d and build the foundation of your next big thing - drain every ounce of life out of them then discard them on the heap a couple of years later.
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lol wut.
also, what website are you posting on?
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b) and c) It is exactly Mark’s plan. He called 2023 “the year of efficiency”, meaning that he wants to flatten the whole organization and get closer to startup velocity (and cost). He communicated this theme during performance reviews, as suggested by the article.
it seems striking that Carmack left pretty much with that criticism and Mark is now probably executing exactly what Carmack would have prescribed. It'd be interesting to correlate how closely the thinking around this second wave started to when Carmack made his announcement.
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HN is probably not the best audience for this message. But I obviously disagree. People don’t become doctors because it’s insanely hard, stressful, time-consuming, and expensive. What we need there is not more money, as doctors also have high salaries already, but a reform in the system to make it more appealing to do the work. I’m not sure what you mean by “more engineers, more visionaries”. Are workers at big tech…
that's actually a very controversial question and has been debated my whole code-writing career ( 26 years so far ).
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#196Wall Street rewarded Meta with a massive jump in share price (+15% in one day) when Zuck stated on an earnings call that he was all now about efficiency (and therefore a tacit admission that he won't just throw the entire company off the VR cliff into the abyss). Zuck probably thinks more of the same will buy additional good will from Wall St.
+15% in one day, when the stock is already down 75% from its peak a year or two earlier, doesn't feel like a "massive jump".
How many here in this thread bought Meta at over $320 in November 2021?
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Why would someone quit in this scenario when they can just as easily get paid multiple months of severance with benefits?
> Why would someone quit in this scenario They might have another offer lined up!
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I'm usually not one to say companies shouldn't take on risks to expand into new business areas, particularly not in times where the core product is bleeding lucrative users... but here it's the same shit as with Twitter prior to Parag Agrawal's term or with Elon Musk's dozens of ventures. It's one thing and bad enough if board members have sometimes dozens of posts... but Zuckerberg, Musk, Dorsey all show it's not a…
And it's especially not good if they use company resources for their personal pet projects. Good grief. I guess if you are a CFO, or finance guy, sure. But a "pet project" is conjoined with passion. And R&D, and testing the waters in other markets, is what causes true motivation. People often complain that big corps can only innovate via acquisition. Yet, this comment is complaining that big corps are innovating by..…
At some point, they have to start being profitable, and this constraint is what forces them to be adaptable and listen to users.
Billionaire pet projects do not have this constraint, and as such can become endless money sinks.
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I've noticed more uncertainty, less comradery, a general malaise, lack of motivation and a lot less trust in the organization. A very very different feeling to a year ago.
Sounds like faangs are becoming more like banking environment where few % layoffs are often happening few times a year. It still sucks to be the one affected and over time it sucks out a lot of positive energy