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Ultra-processed foods may contribute to cognitive decline

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Re: Ultra-processed foods may contribute to cognitive decline

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But it costs twice as much...

So it costs $3 instead of $1.50? I think people buy sandwich bread because they prefer it and not because of cost.

You also get "more" because fresh bread tends to be thick slices. Even at home, it's difficult to slice a fresh loaf thin enough to stretch as far as sandwich bread.

Re: Ultra-processed foods may contribute to cognitive decline

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For anyone that's been confused by all the disjoint and contradictory nutritional information that's bombarding us these days, I'd recommend two books: (Metabolical - Robert H. Lustig) https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/53240367-metabolical (Drop Acid - David Perlmutter) https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/57505860 They are both new books, by two different authors, they both rally against processed food (and talk…

What are some actionable takeaways? I would love to eliminate dietary sugar, but it's hard to do so if your entire family is not on the same page.

Personally, my rule is no liquid calories (nut beverages, milk, fruit juices, sugar with my coffee, etc.) unless I am on a weight gain diet, then smoothies with whole fruits are ok.

I drink water, black coffee, and tea.

Re: Ultra-processed foods may contribute to cognitive decline

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Of course it’s possible. It takes about five minutes to prepare a chicken.

It takes another thirty minutes to do the dishes and clean the kitchen.

So just eat your unhealthy processed foods, no skin off my nose.

Re: Ultra-processed foods may contribute to cognitive decline

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Freshly baked bread is available to _everyone_. Buy some flour, take a cup of flour, mix some water, maybe some salt, squish it some and bake it. The downfall of society will happen within arms length of wisdom and knowledge.

Bread takes hours to make and lasts for one day. So unless you wanna wake up at 3 am (or have a dedicated stay-at-home person making bread every day) it's not really a realistic option for many people.

You can mix this recipe and "bake" in in a frying pan in minutes.

A tiny bit of practice and perspective change to get something you like and you can have fresh bread daily for the rest of your life.

Re: Ultra-processed foods may contribute to cognitive decline

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So it costs $3 instead of $1.50? I think people buy sandwich bread because they prefer it and not because of cost.

You also get "more" because fresh bread tends to be thick slices. Even at home, it's difficult to slice a fresh loaf thin enough to stretch as far as sandwich bread.

I do not believe this is a significant factor and if it is you can ask them to cut it for you.

Re: Ultra-processed foods may contribute to cognitive decline

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> Even packaged breads, including those high in nutritious whole grains, qualify as ultra-processed in many cases because of the additives and preservatives they contain. However much I'd like to alter my diet to be more healthy, including flavored nuts or bread as ultraprocessed means I have nearly zero chance avoiding a sizable portion of what academic scientists label as ultraprocessed. These studies and press rel…

I think the major problem is that no one can define what "processed" means in any consistent or objective sense. It's just a retcon'd category of things people already think of as unhealthy.

Flour, water, salt, yeast. Take those and make bread. You have "processed" food. Now, take flour, water, salt, yeast, flour conditioners, sugars, added nutrients, etc. and make bread. You have "ultra-processed" foods.

Processed can be fine as long as you use healthy ingredients. Ultra-processed is never fine.

Re: Ultra-processed foods may contribute to cognitive decline

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It takes another thirty minutes to do the dishes and clean the kitchen.

So just eat your unhealthy processed foods, no skin off my nose.

I actually cook every day, but I acknowledge that many people don't have the energy to do that.
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