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Retail, search and Amazon’s $40B ‘advertising’ business

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Re: Retail, search and Amazon’s $40B ‘advertising’ business

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I never encountered ads on Amazon, so out of curiosity I disabled uBlock Origin and visited Amazon. It seems that the ads are for products sold on Amazon. Clicking an ad redirects you to the product page. Until now I thought that sites where you go to spend money are free of ads. This is a new low. What's next, ads on banking apps? Ads on the revenue service website? I think ads play the biggest part in why the Inter…

Ads on Amazon are far more annoying than ads on other web properties, because I go to Amazon for a very specific need. I search for Tide washing liquid and I see these sponsored products on top, way above the Tide result. From a purist viewpoint, this is disgusting. I have to come to you Amazon, to just give me what I want, not what you think I want. That said, there isn't a better alternative so I just ignore the ad…

> I have to come to you Amazon, to just give me what I want, not what you think I want.

It's not what they think you want, they probably know exactly what you want.

It's what they're being paid to shill to you. It's more profitable for them to take that money and put you through a bad experience than to just sell stuff to you.

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TikTok is a holy grail of distilled information. In two short years of TikTok recipes, my wife has learned how to cook better than almost any restaurant we eat at, and we're serious foodies. Zero to one hundred, just from TikTok. There's everything from OSint TikTok to finance TikTok to archeologist TikTok... It's crazy, and it's good. Once you find your niche, the information density approaches that of a black hole.…

it's just simply that cooking is a very basic skill. it only requires that you do it. you don't need to study hard to learn to cook. The average person can learn to cook from someone who already can do it (usually it's your parents...) in a week. It usually happens at the age of 15. From then on it's only a matter of practicing and experimenting. It doesn't require a tutor, contrary to what TV shows like master chef…

> it's just simply that cooking is a very basic skill.

One that the vast majority of people suck at. Either it's not basic or something else is wrong ... like how hard it is to learn new skills.

Re: Retail, search and Amazon’s $40B ‘advertising’ business

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1) It's no longer the search intent destination for advertisers. You find information on TikTok, you research products on Reddit, you send your purchase intent to Amazon, etc. These platforms will accrete more advertiser dollars. 2) Google SERPs sucks now. Low quality ads at top, low quality results that follow. A lot of SEO bullshit. Information returned is often irrelevant. Users know this and are getting fed up. 3…

> You find information on TikTok Am I old? What kind of information. Not to be on Googles side here but, for information in video form... YouTube is at least somewhat reasonable still. Right?

>YouTube is at least somewhat reasonable still

Not really. YouTube is a mess due to advertising. You have to wade through tons of trash to find good content.

Re: Retail, search and Amazon’s $40B ‘advertising’ business

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I never encountered ads on Amazon, so out of curiosity I disabled uBlock Origin and visited Amazon. It seems that the ads are for products sold on Amazon. Clicking an ad redirects you to the product page. Until now I thought that sites where you go to spend money are free of ads. This is a new low. What's next, ads on banking apps? Ads on the revenue service website? I think ads play the biggest part in why the Inter…

Ads on Amazon are far more annoying than ads on other web properties, because I go to Amazon for a very specific need. I search for Tide washing liquid and I see these sponsored products on top, way above the Tide result. From a purist viewpoint, this is disgusting. I have to come to you Amazon, to just give me what I want, not what you think I want. That said, there isn't a better alternative so I just ignore the ad…

> just give me what I want, not what you think I want.

I feel the same way about writing suggestions in Gmail and “fuzzy search” common on a lot of sites. What’s the deal with this apparent trend of constantly trying to second-guess user intention?

Re: Retail, search and Amazon’s $40B ‘advertising’ business

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> You find information on TikTok Am I old? What kind of information. Not to be on Googles side here but, for information in video form... YouTube is at least somewhat reasonable still. Right?

TikTok is a holy grail of distilled information. In two short years of TikTok recipes, my wife has learned how to cook better than almost any restaurant we eat at, and we're serious foodies. Zero to one hundred, just from TikTok. There's everything from OSint TikTok to finance TikTok to archeologist TikTok... It's crazy, and it's good. Once you find your niche, the information density approaches that of a black hole.…

Sorry for double posting, I can't edit my comments anymore.

Amusingly I just discovered that TikTok is actually a very good educational platform but only for Chinese people in China.

The Chinese version of the popular short video app TikTok, known as Douyin, will force users in China who are under 14 years old to use the so called teenage mode that will limit them to 40 minutes a day between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m. to ensure they get adequate sleep. Endless zombie-like scrolling is interrupted by mandatory 5-second delays. They’re also only shown specially-selected “inspiring” content.

The algorithm is vastly different, promoting science, educational and historical content in China

I don't know for sure if this is some form of Chinese propaganda, but assuming it's true, compared to the content that is more prominent in the rest of the World, it becomes increasingly hard to call ourselves "advanced societies".

Re: Retail, search and Amazon’s $40B ‘advertising’ business

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So the companies that sell on Amazon pay money to Amazon (from the revenues they get from Amazon's customers) to have their products listed more favorably than competitors (one of which is actually Amazon). I can see how this seems advantageous and monopolistic for Amazon...

Like how they can see what products are hot sellers and then create that product under their brand and sell it at a cheaper rate?

Re: Retail, search and Amazon’s $40B ‘advertising’ business

#137

I never encountered ads on Amazon, so out of curiosity I disabled uBlock Origin and visited Amazon. It seems that the ads are for products sold on Amazon. Clicking an ad redirects you to the product page. Until now I thought that sites where you go to spend money are free of ads. This is a new low. What's next, ads on banking apps? Ads on the revenue service website? I think ads play the biggest part in why the Inter…

Ads play the biggest part in why the Internet is mostly free. You know, companies need to make money somehow.

Re: Retail, search and Amazon’s $40B ‘advertising’ business

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You know you can pay eBay to promote your listing. That is pretty much what they mean by ads in this case. Someone is paying to be the top spot or be promoted on search results.

I think Amazon has an ad network of sorts, so sellers bid for the sponsored search slot. In retailers who don't have such a platform, merchandisers take the call and boost/bury products in search results.

Ahh, that makes sense. It also explains why I see certain sellers ads everywhere from time to time.

Re: Retail, search and Amazon’s $40B ‘advertising’ business

#139

I never encountered ads on Amazon, so out of curiosity I disabled uBlock Origin and visited Amazon. It seems that the ads are for products sold on Amazon. Clicking an ad redirects you to the product page. Until now I thought that sites where you go to spend money are free of ads. This is a new low. What's next, ads on banking apps? Ads on the revenue service website? I think ads play the biggest part in why the Inter…

> Until now I thought that sites where you go to spend money are free of ads

Why would you think this? An IRL analogue is that the grocery store is full of ads and displays meant to catch your attention — paid for by the food/product manufacturers.

Re: Retail, search and Amazon’s $40B ‘advertising’ business

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I never encountered ads on Amazon, so out of curiosity I disabled uBlock Origin and visited Amazon. It seems that the ads are for products sold on Amazon. Clicking an ad redirects you to the product page. Until now I thought that sites where you go to spend money are free of ads. This is a new low. What's next, ads on banking apps? Ads on the revenue service website? I think ads play the biggest part in why the Inter…

Ads on Amazon are far more annoying than ads on other web properties, because I go to Amazon for a very specific need. I search for Tide washing liquid and I see these sponsored products on top, way above the Tide result. From a purist viewpoint, this is disgusting. I have to come to you Amazon, to just give me what I want, not what you think I want. That said, there isn't a better alternative so I just ignore the ad…

> That said, there isn't a better alternative so I just ignore the ads and go for the product no matter how far down the page that product appears.

Go to Walmart.com or Target.com and you can filter for items sold by Walmart and Target.

Or eBay and Aliexpress. What Amazon is good for is cheap $20 to $100 items that you want the ability to easily return for a refund.

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