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Re: New cognitive skills in the age of AI tailored information

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I really enjoy learning with CGPT. I usually start by asking a question on a level that I'm familiar with and then follow up with questions that come up as I read the response. This way you tailor the learning process to your specific knowledge level and it is so much faster than reading a tutorial (which is often miss-aligned with your knowledge level) or googling for answers one by one (and filtering all irrelevant content and again stuff you already know). It feels like having a hotline to an army of domain experts...

Re: New cognitive skills in the age of AI tailored information

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think there is anything Marxist about the current "Liberal Arts Education"... As well as, at least in my observation a lot of people I know who graduated from philosophy, and arts are good critical thinkers. I am not sure this is a fair statement.

Try to ask your friends some very difficult question, like "what is the definition of woman?". I am saying that current education does not give people tools to use LLM and AI. They will spend most of time on problems like "not being racist" or "looking for systemic bias". Others without this baggage will run circles around them, and eat their lunch.

I would ask you. Can you define a woman? Let’s make it less heated, can you describe a chair? I can’t easily at least. Is it something you sit on? Does it require legs? To define a woman is equally difficult. Take some time to think about it.

Tech should take more time to think about racism, and bias. All of this by the way is not Marxism. I’ll grant you that the culture war is toxic, but with good faith try to understand where things are coming from. I understand from a conservative perspective some things are obnoxious. That doesn’t mean that liberal arts are not critical thinkers, or Marxist. In fact I would argue they are in some ways better at critical thinking vs the STEM fields.

Re: New cognitive skills in the age of AI tailored information

#33

Was this post written with (the help of) ChatGPT (or similar)? Because it reads a lot like it: it is poorly written, incoherent, repetitive and, honestly, quite shallow.

Also vague summary and not convincing headers (what is written in the biggest font).

Re: New cognitive skills in the age of AI tailored information

#34

I really enjoy learning with CGPT. I usually start by asking a question on a level that I'm familiar with and then follow up with questions that come up as I read the response. This way you tailor the learning process to your specific knowledge level and it is so much faster than reading a tutorial (which is often miss-aligned with your knowledge level) or googling for answers one by one (and filtering all irrelevant…

How do you deal with the UI of ChatGPT slowing down to a crawl after two or three "messages" exchanged? Or am I the only one who had this issue consistently for a month now, across multiple devices?

(Note: I'm not talking about the model being slow to respond, but rather the animation of it typing its response letter by letter quickly starts slowing down, until eventually it hangs, sometimes mid-sentence.)

Re: New cognitive skills in the age of AI tailored information

#35

Was this post written with (the help of) ChatGPT (or similar)? Because it reads a lot like it: it is poorly written, incoherent, repetitive and, honestly, quite shallow.

The same thought occurred to me. Maybe someone whose written English isn't great and is using ChatGPT to compensate. But I think people are being overly harsh about this article. It's certainly speculative, but it makes no claim to be anything but that and speculation isn't always a bad thing. People in this thread are demanding rigorous evidence, but speculation comes before evidence gathering and experimentation, and I'm sure there will be plenty of that as time goes on.

Re: New cognitive skills in the age of AI tailored information

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try to ask your friends some very difficult question, like "what is the definition of woman?". I am saying that current education does not give people tools to use LLM and AI. They will spend most of time on problems like "not being racist" or "looking for systemic bias". Others without this baggage will run circles around them, and eat their lunch.

I would ask you. Can you define a woman? Let’s make it less heated, can you describe a chair? I can’t easily at least. Is it something you sit on? Does it require legs? To define a woman is equally difficult. Take some time to think about it. Tech should take more time to think about racism, and bias. All of this by the way is not Marxism. I’ll grant you that the culture war is toxic, but with good faith try to under…

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Re: New cognitive skills in the age of AI tailored information

#37

I really enjoy learning with CGPT. I usually start by asking a question on a level that I'm familiar with and then follow up with questions that come up as I read the response. This way you tailor the learning process to your specific knowledge level and it is so much faster than reading a tutorial (which is often miss-aligned with your knowledge level) or googling for answers one by one (and filtering all irrelevant…

How do you deal with the UI of ChatGPT slowing down to a crawl after two or three "messages" exchanged? Or am I the only one who had this issue consistently for a month now, across multiple devices? (Note: I'm not talking about the model being slow to respond, but rather the animation of it typing its response letter by letter quickly starts slowing down, until eventually it hangs , sometimes mid-sentence.)

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Re: New cognitive skills in the age of AI tailored information

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Alternate hypothesis:

Life on this planet has evolved from primitive organisms whose only goal is to propagate through spacetime (in time = survive, in space = reproduce), as this is the de facto only initial goal you may encounter serendipitously, when the trait we judge is... in fact propagation though spacetime (i.e. to exist, you need to know how to keep existing).

In the quest of adapting better to our environment and each other, we needed ways to predict the environment, hence development of sensors, actuators and the function in between them that reads this input and produces output - cognition & intelligence.

Life has been developing cognition starting with basic instincts fight or flight, then increasingly complicated associative thought, social cognition, abstract cognition, speech, formal models (like math, logic) etc.

Then our culture took off, and we needed to evolve faster than we could. So as a crutch, we started producing an augmentation for ourselves to help with the high end of cognition, formal communication & computation, in the face of books, printing, computers solving linear algebra systems, arithmetic, math & logic problems, programming systems, the Internet.

But now this technology is starting to eat back down the evolutionary tree of cognition, it has started reproducing associative thought (neural networks) and the associated with them cognitive skills, like speech, abstract reasoning and so on.

We evolved bottom-up.

Technology is evolving, through our own hands, top-down.

We... are not developing new cognitive skills. We're losing them to technology.

We no longer do math by hand. We use computers. We no longer maintain complex formal systems by reading instructions and following them - we program computers to. We no longer remember facts - we look them up on the Internet.

Now we're starting to no longer go through the effort of creating art & speech from scratch, we're delegating this to diffusion and transformer models.

We're losing cognition. And this process won't stop. We can't just decide to stop it, because we're dependent on technology. If technology ceases to be, society ceases to be, billions will die.

So our only options is to continue ceding cognitive territory to AI, and eventually become its puppets, and eventually AI will have no purpose for us, and it'll stop supporting us entirely.

Re: New cognitive skills in the age of AI tailored information

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This is similar to the moral panic around Google and Wikipedia. No, people won't stop learning because of chatgpt. Studying and developing critical thinking is more important than ever before. What people miss when they babble stuff like "math is useless" or "literature is useless" or "history is useless" is that those things are not important by themselves, they are important because you are learning models and tool…

> No, people won't stop learning because of chatgpt. Actually it’s the opposite. People will start learning more, because of ChatGPT. Since I started using ChatGPT I am learning new things on a daily basis, about philosophy, about history, about computer sciences, about algorithms, about all sorts of things. It’s a lot of fun diving into subjects in a conversational way, with a „teacher“ by my side who never gets tir…

Are you checking it's answering your questions correctly?

Re: New cognitive skills in the age of AI tailored information

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I clicked on the article hoping to find information on potential new cognitive skills humans will need to learn to differentiate Large Language Model (LLM) hallucinated facts from real facts, but unfortunately the article doesn't touch upon this.

Reading the comments it seems likely that the article is itself LLM-generated blogspam, in which case it won't be aware of the potential for hallucinated facts.

I was thinking the other day that we really need a new term for this. In 2016 we had "post-truth", but that implies humans deliberately making stuff up to deceive people, for whatever reason, but LLMs making stuff up don't really knowingly do so, and don't really have a motive. There is the term "consensus reality", but the danger is that with more and more LLM-generated content appearing on the internet, which may ultimately pollute future training, we may find "consensus" isn't sufficient to determine reality any more. Perhaps the new term for what we're heading towards could be something like the "post-reality" era, or something like that.

Not sure what the solution to this is either, other than withdrawing from the mainstream internet and sticking to the small known pockets of human resistance (while they still exist).

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