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Why am I not terrified of AI?

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Re: Why am I not terrified of AI?

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I'm terrified of AI. Both the imperfect good enough AI, and the post-human skynet AI. In my personal life, I have friends addicted to ChatGPT. While we are talking, they are talking to chatgpt for advice, for jokes, for planning David Bowie themed parties. They literally run everything thru this AI first. My firm's marketing department is using ChatGPT heavily to write copy, tweets, etc.It's amazingly great. Our ROI'…

I think some of the concern is overblown, some isn't.

The Replika AI stuff is definitely concerning because it deprives people of actual relationships by subsituting something artificial that can never supplant something physical/real. Kind of like the movie Her (2013). But this is already happening with stuff like onlyfans.

The stable diffusion stuff shouldn't threaten artists, in the same way that digital art doesn't threaten traditional artists. It's just another tool to be integrated into their workflow. Use it as a starting point to refine, or for inspiration. Did early animators feel threatened by computers? Sure, but it meant they didn't need to hand trace every frame for rotoscoping. Did Phil Tippett feel threatened by CGI superceding his stop motion in Jurassic Park? Probably, but he evolved to integrate his knowledge into the CGI performances. They also ended up using scale models/animatronics for basically motion capture, using elements from stop motion. He still pursues his stop/go motion passion as well.

AI instagram models aren't anymore threatening than current instagram models, since they already set unrealistic expectations based on fake personalities and lives.

Yeah, a problem is people anthropomorphizing it and by doing so they assume it has more intelligence than it actually has. Its an interesting technology, but you're right to be concerned (as am I). I honestly don't think anything can be done to prevent it though, especially as SV companies disregard ethics and want to just produce products without thinking about the repurcussions. Maybe there will be a backlash eventually against AI as people once again strive only for human relationships. Maybe society will be stratified along those lines. The best you can hope for is that people continue to think and question.

Re: Why am I not terrified of AI?

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The only AI I'm terrified of is AI overhyped by people and then used for something it's way too stupid for. AI existential risk to me is fundamentally a nerd revenge fantasy.

AI fears come out of a modern enlightenment tradition that elevates disembodied minds to some kind of godlike status. It falsely equates reason and intellect with power. In reality that's never really the case, or all the rationalist, 200 IQ people would run the world and stop all the AI risks. In reality all they do is write blog posts for each other, despite the fact that many of them are probably two standard deviations smarter than all the politicians. Closely related is that XKCD crypto meme with the crowbar that everyone knows.

Any virtual AI is going to be physically subject to humans. So unless you voluntarily build the AI a gigantic killer robot, Fallout style, how smart it is won't matter. The idea that being smart isn't all that it's made out to be just never crosses the minds of AI risk people.

Re: Why am I not terrified of AI?

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I find it funny how all the commenters have shat themselves about evil ChatGPT conquering the world and abusing the minds of their loved ones, when at the same time its accuracy/perfomance on any other language than English is abysmal and will still be for a very long time.

Re: Why am I not terrified of AI?

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I'm terrified of AI. Both the imperfect good enough AI, and the post-human skynet AI. In my personal life, I have friends addicted to ChatGPT. While we are talking, they are talking to chatgpt for advice, for jokes, for planning David Bowie themed parties. They literally run everything thru this AI first. My firm's marketing department is using ChatGPT heavily to write copy, tweets, etc.It's amazingly great. Our ROI'…

> In my personal life, I have friends addicted to ChatGPT. While we are talking, they are talking to chatgpt for advice, for jokes, for planning David Bowie themed parties. They literally run everything thru this AI first

Time for new friends

Re: Why am I not terrified of AI?

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I'm terrified of AI. Both the imperfect good enough AI, and the post-human skynet AI. In my personal life, I have friends addicted to ChatGPT. While we are talking, they are talking to chatgpt for advice, for jokes, for planning David Bowie themed parties. They literally run everything thru this AI first. My firm's marketing department is using ChatGPT heavily to write copy, tweets, etc.It's amazingly great. Our ROI'…

I'm terrified of AI for the same reason the movie 'Idiocracy' scares the shit out of me

Re: Why am I not terrified of AI?

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I'm terrified of AI. Both the imperfect good enough AI, and the post-human skynet AI. In my personal life, I have friends addicted to ChatGPT. While we are talking, they are talking to chatgpt for advice, for jokes, for planning David Bowie themed parties. They literally run everything thru this AI first. My firm's marketing department is using ChatGPT heavily to write copy, tweets, etc.It's amazingly great. Our ROI'…

I'm terrified of AI for the same reason the movie 'Idiocracy' scares the shit out of me

That's not reassuring, considering the Q society / IdioQracy having taken shape in the US.

Re: Why am I not terrified of AI?

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I'm terrified of AI, but not for the reasons you think. I'm not worried about a Skynet AI, and at the same time, I am. We aren't going to see an AGI in a while, so it's too premature to worry about that. I'm not even sure a true AGI is possible, yet... kind of like how flying cars are possible. We do have flying cars, sort of? Not the way we all envisioned though. So it is for AI. My worry is that AI will become too…

So I feel like there is a kind of rush towards just letting AI do everything for us, this is where I think the mistakes will start.

Personally, I think it's still important to study, learn to innovate, and stand on your own two feet, learn survival tactics etc in case we actually do end up in some type of economic collapse or worse from "The AIs".

Re: Why am I not terrified of AI?

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I'm terrified of AI. Both the imperfect good enough AI, and the post-human skynet AI. In my personal life, I have friends addicted to ChatGPT. While we are talking, they are talking to chatgpt for advice, for jokes, for planning David Bowie themed parties. They literally run everything thru this AI first. My firm's marketing department is using ChatGPT heavily to write copy, tweets, etc.It's amazingly great. Our ROI'…

I think some of the concern is overblown, some isn't. The Replika AI stuff is definitely concerning because it deprives people of actual relationships by subsituting something artificial that can never supplant something physical/real. Kind of like the movie Her (2013). But this is already happening with stuff like onlyfans. The stable diffusion stuff shouldn't threaten artists, in the same way that digital art doesn…

The stable diffusion stuff shouldn't threaten artists, in the same way that digital art doesn't threaten traditional artists.

It's a fairly unpopular viewpoint that you're taking here, but I also agree with you.

Unless you can actually think of what you want and AI produces it, just like how some people are so good at illustrating they can basically draw exactly what they see in there mind, it's not going to change everything for artists.

I mean there might be cases where I'd use DALL-E to generate some images for a mock-up website design, but I'd still probably higher a designer to create a proper portfolio, provide style guidance etc.

Same for photograph, if I was working on something that was "about" a real thing, like a travel blog, I'd still be working with photographers to take real photos, because...authenticity is important, at least I feel it is, else people would've just used Getty images and thrown there cameras away for the last 30 years.

Re: Why am I not terrified of AI?

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Someone said something recently which I thought was interesting:

We hear so much talk of ChatGPT becoming sentient etc, but someone asked recently, why aren't we worried about DALL-E being sentient just in the same way?

We're anthropomorphizing Chatbots a lot because why wouldn't we?

This is not to downplay the significance of the technology, although I'm a bit skeptical it truly is as useful as advertised, but we've definitely scared the hell out of ourselves lately from having the computer "talk" to us.

I think there is also a background anxiety going on in the world now, and this is probably what's freaking people out too.

We have a war in Ukraine, Climate change is accelerating away, US & China tensions, Just getting over Covid, tech layoffs, and now a freaking bot that seems like it's primary goal is to make your career worthless.

Little bit too much going on lately. I feel like if ChatGPT was introduced pre-covid when the world felt a little bit more stable, it wouldn't be such a strange vibe. It was a weird time for something like this to just sort of launch into the public consciousness.

My advice, take a break from it, be mindful of what's going on in the world outside of "AI news", be kind to yourself.

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