Google Search Is Dying (2022) • Hacker News Board

Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

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Post by penguinvondoom » Tue, Mar 07, 2023, 9:26 AM UTC

marginalia_nu wrote: post #254

I don't know if it's Google that is dying. It's more like a large segment of the public facing internet is wilting. The user experience without an adblocker is almost nothing but ads, popovers, permission requests and chat boxes, sign-up-to-the-newsletter requests. And these are the websites that aren't trying to bait-and-switch you For example, this is the screen I'm showed when I navigate to www.producthunt.com: ht…

Completely agree. I think the fundamental problem, is that the public facing internet is kind of like electricity or water - it is a utility, that isn't inherently monetizeable. So the only way to make money off of it is to advertise. And then advertisement itself is a cancer upon humanity ...

Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

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Post by AdamN » Tue, Mar 07, 2023, 10:22 AM UTC

ilyt wrote: post #292

AdamN wrote: post #206

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I muted USA Today in Apple News recently because their filtering was below the bar (click bait headlines, low quality writing). I don't know who the editors are that are making their decisions but I no longer trust that outlet anymore. Channels with higher quality selection (Financial Times) now have more of my time because I trust them more based on previous decisions they have made (to show me fewer low quality art…

> I muted USA Today in Apple News recently because their filtering was below the bar (click bait headlines, low quality writing). I don't know who the editors are that are making their decisions but I no longer trust that outlet anymore. YOU MUTED is the key here. "Majority of subreddit didn't like it so it got downvoted" is somewhat democratic will of community. You muted a user coz you don't want their content is p…

USA Today is the moderator ... and they do a poor job so I muted the entire 'sub'. USA Today is not an analogue for the user.

Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

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Post by thetis » Tue, Mar 07, 2023, 10:33 AM UTC

I believe one of the big point missed is that community contribution totally disapeared of the public internet. In the past you were able to find anything you want by just typing anything in google, on all the forums & microblogs. That content disapeared from internet, replaced by discord & instagram, which are not public. Reddit is the main community remaining public, this is why people are typing "pizza reddit" while the main contributions are not on the reddit community but on the the discord from the pizza reddit.

So now, when you want to go deep into the topic pizza, you have to: --> go to the pizza reddit --> get the discord adress --> connect to the redditPizza discord --> search "mozzarella" on the shitty discord search

Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

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Post by snapcaster » Tue, Mar 07, 2023, 1:27 PM UTC

tokinonagare wrote: post #447

brookst wrote: post #402

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So you’re saying they have little interest in entertaining someone who just wants to culture war? And that’s somehow bad?

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I mean but really who cares right? A fictional character is black, are the people worked up about this just children? Or just privileged? I struggle to understand why the intensity of people's feelings about this

Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

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Post by Eddy_Viscosity2 » Tue, Mar 07, 2023, 1:30 PM UTC

mcherm wrote: post #158

Eddy_Viscosity2 wrote: post #154

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Wow, yes to this -- your own google blacklist.

As a bonus, Google would have access to the list of who had blacklisted what sites -- surely that would be useful to them as a signal to detect "SEO spam sites".

But if they do that, then Goodharts gonna get his law involved and SEO will then involve gaming these lists to blacklist competitors. Arg.

Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

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Post by brookst » Tue, Mar 07, 2023, 1:49 PM UTC

tokinonagare wrote: post #447

brookst wrote: post #402

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So you’re saying they have little interest in entertaining someone who just wants to culture war? And that’s somehow bad?

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Maybe re-read your post and consider whether it is really so inexplicable that a community focused on a trading card game doesn’t want that kind of outrage and vitriol.

Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

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Post by gaia » Tue, Mar 07, 2023, 3:19 PM UTC

Countdown until someone builds a site that only appends "inurl:reddit.com" to every query and calls it Roogle.

Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

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Post by therealdrag0 » Tue, Mar 07, 2023, 5:06 PM UTC

treeman79 wrote: post #301

zzbzq wrote: post #263

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What are "all signs"? Shit you made up in your head? It's owned by China for godsakes, what a half-baked conspiracy theory

Nearly all of Reddit is ultra left wing. No opposing view points are tolerated. Individual topic sub Reddit’s are okay if they are strict about keeping on topic. Anything front page is insanity.

How does that relate at all?

Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

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Post by knodi123 » Tue, Mar 07, 2023, 5:45 PM UTC

nicoburns wrote: post #234

moffkalast wrote: post #181

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Well you wouldn't want any amateurs doing that for sure.

Amateurs can be experts! Amateur just means non-professional

I only hire union surgeons. No filthy scabs are going to cut me open!

Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

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Post by kazinator » Tue, Mar 07, 2023, 7:15 PM UTC

Google has no motivation to improve Google Search until a runner-up makes serious inroads into its popularity.

Running a search engine probably isn't like a marathon, where if you're a front-runner by 800 meters, you still care about setting a personal best or breaking a record.