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Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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Post by tehwebguy »

SoftTalker wrote: post #215
wheels wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I often also do parties, where I cook for 20-ish people, and often have 3-4 dishwasher loads after a party. Speed does matter some. Where it matters a lot more is that I live in an condo where officially I'm not supposed to run my dishwasher after 10:00 p.m. The difference between 1 or 3 hours is significant there for running it after dinner. (I basically only run it after 10:00 p.m. after parties; got a very q…

Good lord. I don’t even know 20 people… at least not well enough to have them over for dinner.

It can start with just one but if the dinner is good enough you’ll hit 20 in no time!

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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Post by krageon »

sixstringtheory wrote: post #163
the_third_wave wrote: post #134

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Buy the cheaper one, get the extra part - probably a movable door latch, at least that is how my mother's Miele does this - and build it in the device yourself. You may have to add something to actually make the thing move since the firmware in the controller probably does not have this function enabled on down-specced versions [1] either by changing the firmware or by adding a simple circuit (hooked up to that beepe…

In the time it would take to procure all necessary parts and tools, and perform the labor, most people could've earned enough wage to just pony up the $200 for a streamlined solution. Not to mention avoiding the risk of voiding the warranty on a brand new appliance, or a house fire by mucking about with electricity in a device that also has water shooting around in it. By all means though, to all the tinkerers out th…

> a house fire by mucking about with electricity in a device that also has water shooting around in it.

If a corporation can do it properly, there is no reason to assume OP cannot. It is a little over the top to insist their house will catch fire just because they added a latch to a dishwasher (on the outside of the shell, which is what contains the water).

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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Post by f_allwein »

Ok, so everybody wants a faster dishwasher and nobody wants to discuss the article. Fine with me, so I can add my 2 cents:

In Germany, dishwashers (and washing machines, but let’s not go there) fall into two categories, either Miele or everything else. Miele has amazing quality, so it feels like the dishwasher might outlive you.

Mine has a „quick power wash“ programme that takes about an hour and gets the job done, but uses more energy and is maybe more aggressive to dishes, so I usually use other programmes, between 1 and 3 hours. There’s also a timer for starting the machine in n hours, operated by a single button. User interface is also brilliant in that there are no strange symbols, but reach light/ button clearly says what it does (in German). I like it.

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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Post by fifilura »

wheels wrote: post #175
RangerScience wrote: post #156

> In the same way, people don’t buy a dishwasher, they buy clean dishes before their next meal. Ironically, this tells me some... awkward things about how the author relates to their kitchen. I cook - a lot. I host parties - usually dinner parties - and I use cheap Ikea plates & etc instead of disposable anythings. And like (most?) millenials-ish, the kitchen is where we tend to hang out. My dishwasher isn't so that…

Yeah, I often also do parties, where I cook for 20-ish people, and often have 3-4 dishwasher loads after a party. Speed does matter some. Where it matters a lot more is that I live in an condo where officially I'm not supposed to run my dishwasher after 10:00 p.m. The difference between 1 or 3 hours is significant there for running it after dinner. (I basically only run it after 10:00 p.m. after parties; got a very q…

I also often have ~20p over for dinner. Not so uncommon when you meet a couple of families with each a bunch of kids.

However - these types of dishwasher loads stack really well, actually the type of dishes dishwashers are made for packing. You can easily fill the dishwasher with 20 plates of the same type, same with cutlery and glasses. And most of the times at these parties the dishes are fresh, so easy to clean.

Another note. In Sweden and Europe the trend has been for slower programs. To be able to meet the energy consumption benchmarks. 30 years ago dishwashers would typically be done in 1h. Nowadays the default program is often set to 3h. (With an option to do it faster and burn more energy)

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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Post by fifilura »

tehwebguy wrote: post #271
SoftTalker wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good lord. I don’t even know 20 people… at least not well enough to have them over for dinner.

It can start with just one but if the dinner is good enough you’ll hit 20 in no time!

Do it!

Or the easy way.

1. Find a husband/wife. 2. Get some kids. 3. Get some more kids. 4. Invite some other families with lots of kids now and then. 5. Profit!

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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Post by asadlionpk »

poulsbohemian wrote: post #246
goblinux wrote: post #13

My dishwasher has a beeper for when it’s done like a microwave. It drives me up a wall!! I don’t care when dishes are done, I don’t need to attend to them urgently. They can sit there clean until I’m ready for them. There is no way to disable this beeper and it goes off every minute after the cycle is complete. Thank god the dishwasher has a wall switch to the circuit so I can just kill it but oh man. Never buying Bo…

>My dishwasher has a beeper for when it’s done like a microwave. You'd hate my LG then - it texts me to tell me it's done.

I assume this is a wifi-enabled push notification and not a dishwasher with a sim and modem(!!)

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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Post by ErikHuisman »

f_allwein wrote: post #273

Ok, so everybody wants a faster dishwasher and nobody wants to discuss the article. Fine with me, so I can add my 2 cents: In Germany, dishwashers (and washing machines, but let’s not go there) fall into two categories, either Miele or everything else. Miele has amazing quality, so it feels like the dishwasher might outlive you. Mine has a „quick power wash“ programme that takes about an hour and gets the job done, b…

Can vouch for Miele dishwasher. The rollers on the racks are not comparable to any other brand. Sooo smooth.

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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Post by iopq »

golem14 wrote: post #208
Brian_K_White wrote: post #137

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It's the oldest trope since BBS's, if you want free expert information how to do something, just go on any forum and say it wrong, and 20 neckbeards will step all over each other to provide the most correct most efficient most elegant directions. I'm guilty myself. It's a fine tradition I have no problem with. ;)

I see nothing wrong with this. Most people are hardwired to be helpful to others, especially when no one else is judging.

If you ask a question usually few, if any, people attempt to help. When you outright say something wrong, everyone will be telling you the exact solution to your problem

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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Post by Tor3 »

eru wrote: post #48
hwillis wrote: post #15

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Having washed dishes for a while, actually no. A commercial dishwasher only takes ~2 minutes to cycle and dry. They run hot as all fuck. It's the people like me you wanted to be faster. Commercial dishwashers are not as good at getting food off plates. Any crap left on the plate will get spread on everything else, so you have to pre-wash everything first. You should really do it at home too, but most of the reason a…

> Any crap left on the plate will get spread on everything else, so you have to pre-wash everything first. You should really do it at home too, [...] Why? If I have to wash my own dishes, that would defeat the point of a dishwasher..

You don't have to wash the dishes first. Just rinse them under the tap before you put them into the dishwasher. I'm assuming you don't let the dishes pile up before you do that - if you do, you'll get dry dirty plates and 'ware and then yes you would essentially need to wash them by hand. I always rinsed my plates before putting them into the dishwasher (when I had one), it took all of a few seconds. I hate the gunk piling up in the filter, and I definitely felt that the dishes didn't come out as clean as I wanted either, unless I hand-rinsed first.
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