They’ve been a bit over bloated for a while and honestly too many better alternatives out there
They have doubled in size since 2020, but before that they were appropriately sized.
Atlassian to shed 5 per cent of workers
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Re: Atlassian to shed 5 per cent of workers
#12They should lay off 100% and go out of business.
An entire generation of devs has suffered with Atlassian's broken, unscalable tooling. In my entire career I've never met someone who actually likes their products.
Re: Atlassian to shed 5 per cent of workers
#13They’ve been a bit over bloated for a while and honestly too many better alternatives out there
I find it funny that every layoff announcement has a similar comment at the top, as though this were an isolated incident, rather than a fundamental shake up in the industry. This isn't even the only layoff article on the front page of HN right now.
I think it's fair to say that virtually every company right now has been "a bit over bloated for awhile".
Even as someone that foresaw pretty much what we're seeing now roughly a year ago, I still find it shocking to watch the slow unraveling of our industry.
My company hasn't had layoffs yet, but it's painfully obvious to everyone that they're coming (but just not obvious enough to create maximum anxiety from the uncertainty). Because of this I've put my feelers out to see what other options are out there and... it's bad.
Re: Atlassian to shed 5 per cent of workers
#14They should lay off 100% and go out of business. An entire generation of devs has suffered with Atlassian's broken, unscalable tooling. In my entire career I've never met someone who actually likes their products.
I like how bitbucket's pull request/issues system works more than github, and they have really good integration with jira, although to your credit I've never encountered a system I really love
Re: Atlassian to shed 5 per cent of workers
#15They should lay off 100% and go out of business. An entire generation of devs has suffered with Atlassian's broken, unscalable tooling. In my entire career I've never met someone who actually likes their products.
> They should lay off 100% and go out of business.
Suggesting that 9000 people lose their jobs feels like a needlessly hateful way to express a dissatisfaction with a company's products.
Re: Atlassian to shed 5 per cent of workers
#16They’ve been a bit over bloated for a while and honestly too many better alternatives out there
I find it funny that every layoff announcement has a similar comment at the top, as though this were an isolated incident, rather than a fundamental shake up in the industry. This isn't even the only layoff article on the front page of HN right now. I think it's fair to say that virtually every company right now has been "a bit over bloated for awhile". Even as someone that foresaw pretty much what we're seeing now r…
Most companies overhired and would have been punished if they didn't. Now they will be punished if they don't shrink. Public companies have to follow the market or their shareholders will slap them down. The real villain is the Federal Reserve, because their policies created a bubble.
We should also keep in mind that quite a lot of the people who are being laid off never would have had jobs if it wasn't for the massive hiring spree in the past few years.
The industry is not unraveling. It's just reeling from an economic bubble. Despite the layoffs few companies are shrinking back down to the size they were in 2020.
Re: Atlassian to shed 5 per cent of workers
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
I find it funny that every layoff announcement has a similar comment at the top, as though this were an isolated incident, rather than a fundamental shake up in the industry. This isn't even the only layoff article on the front page of HN right now. I think it's fair to say that virtually every company right now has been "a bit over bloated for awhile". Even as someone that foresaw pretty much what we're seeing now r…
Most companies overhired and would have been punished if they didn't. Now they will be punished if they don't shrink. Public companies have to follow the market or their shareholders will slap them down. The real villain is the Federal Reserve, because their policies created a bubble. We should also keep in mind that quite a lot of the people who are being laid off never would have had jobs if it wasn't for the massi…
> Most companies overhired
how is it possible for most companies to overhire? where did all those hires come from? maybe facebook doubled by poaching non-faang people, but where did the non-faang companies get all these extra hires from?
> a lot of the people who are being laid off never would have had jobs
since tech layoffs mostly affect eng, pm's, hr and a bit of management, it seems strange that these mostly well-trained people were just idling around without a job until a couple of years ago by tens of thousands.
Re: Atlassian to shed 5 per cent of workers
#18They’ve been a bit over bloated for a while and honestly too many better alternatives out there
I find it funny that every layoff announcement has a similar comment at the top, as though this were an isolated incident, rather than a fundamental shake up in the industry. This isn't even the only layoff article on the front page of HN right now. I think it's fair to say that virtually every company right now has been "a bit over bloated for awhile". Even as someone that foresaw pretty much what we're seeing now r…
It will be a blood bath.
Postman "Labs", a company that produces a glorified cURL UI and some incoherent most likely useless tools around it received $433M investment at valuation of $2B and apparently has hundreds of employees. Current state of tech is not sustainable.
Re: Atlassian to shed 5 per cent of workers
#19They should lay off 100% and go out of business. An entire generation of devs has suffered with Atlassian's broken, unscalable tooling. In my entire career I've never met someone who actually likes their products.
> They should lay off 100% and go out of business. Suggesting that 9000 people lose their jobs feels like a needlessly hateful way to express a dissatisfaction with a company's products.
Maybe they should work someplace better. It's like people saying the American automakers should have been bailed out just to save all the jobs: if those companies had been left to die, other automakers would have taken over their marketshare and expanded operations, hiring the unemployed workers and probably buying up a lot of factories, support companies, etc.
Keeping a shitty company alive with bad management in place just for the workers isn't good for the market in general.
Disclaimer: I'm just arguing the general principle here. I don't have any strong opinions on Atlassian.
Re: Atlassian to shed 5 per cent of workers
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most companies overhired and would have been punished if they didn't. Now they will be punished if they don't shrink. Public companies have to follow the market or their shareholders will slap them down. The real villain is the Federal Reserve, because their policies created a bubble. We should also keep in mind that quite a lot of the people who are being laid off never would have had jobs if it wasn't for the massi…
> Most companies overhired how is it possible for most companies to overhire? where did all those hires come from? maybe facebook doubled by poaching non-faang people, but where did the non-faang companies get all these extra hires from? > a lot of the people who are being laid off never would have had jobs since tech layoffs mostly affect eng, pm's, hr and a bit of management, it seems strange that these mostly well…
Obvious answer - unemployed.