Node-RED is really tough for Bun to support because it relies on sloppy mode features like implicit global variable assignment (assigning a variable without var/let/const) and Bun currently treats every file as ESM (and transpiles CJS for compatibility)
Show HN: Total.js – Low-code development (Node-RED alternative)
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Re: Show HN: Total.js – Low-code development (Node-RED alternative)
#22This is an extremely cool project, but after browsing the source code a bit, it looks like it's badly in need of modernization. CSS is Bootstrap 3. The docs reference Web Components, and I do see the use of customElements.define() so (I think?) it's using "real" Web Components technologies, but the code is indecipherable to me: var n = t.getAttribute('name') || ''; if (!n) return; var p = t.getAttribute(T_PATH) || 'n…
> CSS is Bootstrap 3.
> there's liberal use of "var"
> The components implementation is very pythonic - it passes "self" around to decorate with functions
Could you explain why these things are bad, other than "it's not the hip and trendy way to do things"?
Re: Show HN: Total.js – Low-code development (Node-RED alternative)
#23This is an extremely cool project, but after browsing the source code a bit, it looks like it's badly in need of modernization. CSS is Bootstrap 3. The docs reference Web Components, and I do see the use of customElements.define() so (I think?) it's using "real" Web Components technologies, but the code is indecipherable to me: var n = t.getAttribute('name') || ''; if (!n) return; var p = t.getAttribute(T_PATH) || 'n…
> This is an extremely cool project, but after browsing the source code a bit, it looks like it's badly in need of modernization.
Just wait until I tell you about the code in your OS, your car, and your phone...
Re: Show HN: Total.js – Low-code development (Node-RED alternative)
#24> Premium components Mmmm. Guarantees I'll never touch this.
We did a ton of free components and apps, and we have been doing it for 10 years.
- More than 10 apps
- The number of UI components exceeds 300
- The number of flow components exceeds 100
- More than 60 components in UI Builder
Internally, we have 9 people in full-time employment, they need salary. As a result, we would like to sell some premium components in order to earn money for the next development, but that's a terrible idea according to you. Yeahh, you are really crazy!
Re: Show HN: Total.js – Low-code development (Node-RED alternative)
#25Had the unfortune to have to work with Total.js a few years ago.. safe to say I'm never touching it again.
Re: Show HN: Total.js – Low-code development (Node-RED alternative)
#26To use this service, you check to agree to terms which include this: "By posting Content to the Service, you grant us the right and license to use, modify, publicly perform, publicly display, reproduce, and distribute such Content on and through the Service. You retain any and all of your rights to any Content you submit, post or display on or through the Service and you are responsible for protecting those rights. Y…
There was no longer a time when we changed terms. Our company provides content creator sites such as Bufferwall.com and other blog post apps for blogs (therefore those conditions). But we will update the terms this month by adding some clear exceptions for UI Builder, cloud services, etc.. That's not clear for all. We will get it clarified.
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#27I cannot seem to find the price of the “premium” components.
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#28Had the unfortune to have to work with Total.js a few years ago.. safe to say I'm never touching it again.
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#29Node-RED is really tough for Bun to support because it relies on sloppy mode features like implicit global variable assignment (assigning a variable without var/let/const) and Bun currently treats every file as ESM (and transpiles CJS for compatibility)
For Bun on workflow builders, I'm currently working on making windmill [1] supports bun as an additional runtime to run the typescript scripts/steps. It's not the same as making the workflow engine run with bun (we use Rust) but I thought it might be worth mentioning :)
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#30When I see low-code, I find myself looking for the Visual Basic of Web. If I could drag and drop a few pre-made controls (including a database control), double click to handle a few events, and have a CRUD app, I would be thrilled. Unfortunately, I still have not found that yet.
You might want to give a try to windmill. open-source, self-hostable FaaS and app builder similar to retool.