Yes, I actually do need a faster dishwasher, thank you. Last 3 dishwashers I've owned have taken between 2 and 2.5 hours to do a load. Between my large family and frequently hosting people I am constantly waiting for the dishwasher to finish.
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Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs
#132My dishwasher has a beeper for when it’s done like a microwave. It drives me up a wall!! I don’t care when dishes are done, I don’t need to attend to them urgently. They can sit there clean until I’m ready for them. There is no way to disable this beeper and it goes off every minute after the cycle is complete. Thank god the dishwasher has a wall switch to the circuit so I can just kill it but oh man. Never buying Bo…
My wife had a saying that applied to almost all of this kind of thing: Designed by a man!
Good for your wife and I hope you have some snappy retort. Then, again...
Imagine if someone here said something similar about some dysfunctional piece of equipment:
Designed by a woman!
So, ladies, what's it gonna be? Free for all like it used to be with women making fun of men and men making fun of women or shall we have this boring speech-policed culture where each word has to be weighed and approved by the experts?
[1] ...fall in the trap of buying useless products?
Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
And yet, I bet women were pretty happy when men created the dishwasher.
One can be happy that something exists while at the same time lamenting that the design isn’t ideal (Edit: though incidentally, it turns out that the inventor of the dishwasher — or at least one of the earliest working designs — was a woman, as the sibling post pointed out; didn’t know that)
And one can criticize a design without making generalized stereotyped assumptions about the gender of the designer.
Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
Mine just... pops open by itself.
When I was dishwasher shopping last, this feature alone cost almost $200. As in I could get exactly the same dish washer with exactly same features, other than the auto open, and pay $200 less.
Buy the cheaper one, get the extra part - probably a movable door latch, at least that is how my mother's Miele does this - and build it in the device yourself. You may have to add something to actually make the thing move since the firmware in the controller probably does not have this function enabled on down-specced versions [1] either by changing the firmware or by adding a simple circuit (hooked up to that beeper...) which actives the moving latch at the right moment.
[1] ...like our Bosch washing machine which clearly has the display and touch buttons for more precise program options (custom temperatures etc.) but does not enable these by means of a different piece of firmware. There will be a day when I'm bored enough to hack the thing to do my bidding...
Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs
#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
From the manual Cycle Completion Signal The cycle completion signal alerts you when a cycle completes and the dishwasher has washed and dried the dishes. You can choose to disable the tone or adjust the volume. NOTE: The unit must be powered OFF before activating. To activate: • Press and hold the right "Cancel Reset" button then press and hold the ON/OFF button. • When the light on the "Cancel Reset" button you are…
Even if it didn't have the option, all you'd have to do is open up the front panel and rip the beeper off the board. That's what I do to my microwaves that can't be muted.
Many home appliances have hidden codes you can use to adjust settings like this, including making them silent. They usually come up if you search for “Sabbath Mode”.
Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs
#136> coming out with products that are faster, more private, more decentralized, more this, more that.
This isn't just another Howl-like lament. Quite the opposite!
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/06/12/click/
> But in no clear way do these products actually improve on what’s existing in a significant enough way that users may consider a shift
This article is apparently shaming engineers for making products that are being sold, but aren't selling well enough. Don't improve products. Don't be concerned with privacy if consumers are not. Just do whatever is going to sell.
This kind of thinking would have prevented the seat belt. Seat belts weren't going to sell more cars, they were going to raise costs. And why? Only to save human lives! Waste!
Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs
#137My dishwasher has a beeper for when it’s done like a microwave. It drives me up a wall!! I don’t care when dishes are done, I don’t need to attend to them urgently. They can sit there clean until I’m ready for them. There is no way to disable this beeper and it goes off every minute after the cycle is complete. Thank god the dishwasher has a wall switch to the circuit so I can just kill it but oh man. Never buying Bo…
From the manual Cycle Completion Signal The cycle completion signal alerts you when a cycle completes and the dishwasher has washed and dried the dishes. You can choose to disable the tone or adjust the volume. NOTE: The unit must be powered OFF before activating. To activate: • Press and hold the right "Cancel Reset" button then press and hold the ON/OFF button. • When the light on the "Cancel Reset" button you are…
It's the oldest trope since BBS's, if you want free expert information how to do something, just go on any forum and say it wrong, and 20 neckbeards will step all over each other to provide the most correct most efficient most elegant directions.
I'm guilty myself. It's a fine tradition I have no problem with. ;)
Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs
#138I don't care about more private or decentralized? Better yet, my mom doesn't? I in fact do, and she in fact should!
Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
My wife had a saying that applied to almost all of this kind of thing: Designed by a man!
Good for your wife and I hope you have some snappy retort. Then, again... Imagine if someone here said something similar about some dysfunctional piece of equipment: Designed by a woman! Either both of these made-in-jest sayings should be accepted - which is fine by me - or neither of them. Have a look at the way men are portrayed in commercials to see how far this imbalance has gone: Men are smelly badly-dressed clu…
You are over-thinking this. My wife's remark was almost invariably directed at goods and machines that were either aimed specifically at women or roles where women are overrepresented or at things the design of which clearly had not involved thinking that women would use them.
One classic example of the latter is car seatbelts and other safety features of cars. Examples of the former abound in the kitchen which in most families is still the domain of the woman of the house; for instance packaging that cannot be opened unless one's fingernails are clipped short.
Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs
#140I'm sure that some restaurants could use a faster dishwasher.
Back in college i spent a year working part-time as a dishwasher for the school cafeteria. That amounted to me using a high-pressure sprayer to pre-clean some of the dishes and utensils (watch out spraying those ladles though!), and then putting them on a conveyor belt that would wash and dry them very quickly. Much like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCM13eOWVgY
Same idea as every restaurant I've worked at, though some were smaller.
But yeah basically high pressure hose + conveyor belt.
The dishwasher's job was mostly to scrape and spray everything beforehand, pull forks out of the trash, etc. Some glassware had to be done by hand, too.
You're supposed to let the dishes cool before using, but in practice they went out almost immediately. Could cause problems if they were chilled rapidly, hot glasses used for sodas with ice, etc.