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Ultra-processed foods may contribute to cognitive decline
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Re: Ultra-processed foods may contribute to cognitive decline
#92> Even packaged breads, including those high in nutritious whole grains, qualify as ultra-processed in many cases because of the additives and preservatives they contain. However much I'd like to alter my diet to be more healthy, including flavored nuts or bread as ultraprocessed means I have nearly zero chance avoiding a sizable portion of what academic scientists label as ultraprocessed. These studies and press rel…
> ... I have nearly zero chance avoiding a sizable portion of what academic scientists label as ultraprocessed. ...
Can you explain a bit why? Isn't what you eat your choice? What's the problem, exactly, I really don't understand why you have nearly zero chance.
Re: Ultra-processed foods may contribute to cognitive decline
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Freshly baked bread is available to _everyone_. Buy some flour, take a cup of flour, mix some water, maybe some salt, squish it some and bake it. The downfall of society will happen within arms length of wisdom and knowledge.
There's a reason bakeries are so prevalent in many areas. That "squish it" part is a lot of work, and you have to wait long enough that it's not available for breakfast. Making it yourself counts as hard to obtain every day.
I have a mixer. I made pizza dough the other day in about 10 minutes. It takes a while to stretch into pizza and add toppings but, if you're just making bread, that'd be ready to bake by morning. Are you actually trying to argue that bread, ine if the simplest things to make and the bedrock of civilization for thousands of years, is too difficult to make?
Re: Ultra-processed foods may contribute to cognitive decline
#94> Even packaged breads, including those high in nutritious whole grains, qualify as ultra-processed in many cases because of the additives and preservatives they contain. However much I'd like to alter my diet to be more healthy, including flavored nuts or bread as ultraprocessed means I have nearly zero chance avoiding a sizable portion of what academic scientists label as ultraprocessed. These studies and press rel…
I think you just need to avoid taking an all-or-nothing attitude here. Knowing that ultra-processed foods are bad is valuable, even if you can't totally eliminate them from your diet. I do agree it's an overbroad category with stuff that ranges from abysmally terrible to stuff that's just kinda bad, but it has the upside of relatively low complexity (if you had ten different categories of processed food, most people…
Careful of your rice intake. Lots of rice has arsenic, cadmium, and lead. It is part of growth and nothing to do with processing or packaging. There are even warnings from the FDA not to feed babies baby food that contains rice products.
Re: Ultra-processed foods may contribute to cognitive decline
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
Freshly baked bread is available to _everyone_. Buy some flour, take a cup of flour, mix some water, maybe some salt, squish it some and bake it. The downfall of society will happen within arms length of wisdom and knowledge.
Most people prefer leavened bread, which is far more involved that your recipe.
That’s a myth: leavened bread doesn’t need much more than that recipe. “No knead bread” was a craze 20 years ago in some circles when people (re)learned that all it takes is a bit of time to rise.
Re: Ultra-processed foods may contribute to cognitive decline
#96> Even packaged breads, including those high in nutritious whole grains, qualify as ultra-processed in many cases because of the additives and preservatives they contain. However much I'd like to alter my diet to be more healthy, including flavored nuts or bread as ultraprocessed means I have nearly zero chance avoiding a sizable portion of what academic scientists label as ultraprocessed. These studies and press rel…
I think the major problem is that no one can define what "processed" means in any consistent or objective sense. It's just a retcon'd category of things people already think of as unhealthy.
> no one can define what "processed" means
this is 'ultra processed' food that is defined by NOVA classification system.
Re: Ultra-processed foods may contribute to cognitive decline
#97> Even packaged breads, including those high in nutritious whole grains, qualify as ultra-processed in many cases because of the additives and preservatives they contain. However much I'd like to alter my diet to be more healthy, including flavored nuts or bread as ultraprocessed means I have nearly zero chance avoiding a sizable portion of what academic scientists label as ultraprocessed. These studies and press rel…
You're going to struggle to give up anything your gut bacteria is tuned to being normal, so there is an effort associated with changing your diet - but once you have been on a new diet for a few weeks, assuming it is balanced enough to be sustainable, it becomes easy.
You also have to want to do it; it's far easier to eat whatever is convenient than to put effort into finding ingredients and cooking them. The problem is that what is convenient is _not_ good for you long term, at least in the US (and at least several other western countries). A good diet is fundamental to good health (both physical and mental) - you'd think this would be axiomatic, but there are plenty of people who don't care enough for whatever reason.
Re: Ultra-processed foods may contribute to cognitive decline
#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's a reason bakeries are so prevalent in many areas. That "squish it" part is a lot of work, and you have to wait long enough that it's not available for breakfast. Making it yourself counts as hard to obtain every day.
I bake my own bread. It's very little work. The problem is the time commitment. You need to be there for a large part of the process. The first mixing and kneading takes the longest, maybe 5 minutes. After that every 20 minutes you need to come and fold for a minute 3 times. After that, let it rest for 8-16h (depending on dough temperature, amount of yeast, environment temperature). Then you do another 2 minutes of w…
There is a compromise that you can do if you are short for time. Buy a bread maker with a timer. You add the ingredients before going to bed and it will bake overnight and will be ready in time for breakfast. It is not the same thing as hand made sourdough but it is a good compromise.
Re: Ultra-processed foods may contribute to cognitive decline
#99I follow a yeast-free diet to control an auto-immune disease called Hidradenitis suppurativa. Some doctors produced a study a while back where they found anti-Saccharomyces cerevisiae autoantibodies in HS patients. When patients followed a yeast and wheat-free diet they would see 100% remission of symptoms. The hardest part of following this diet is avoiding yeast as it is a major flavor component in almost all "ultr…
Not exactly the same, but my dad has (diagnosed) celiac disease and, being stubborn, refused to adhere to the diet. He had early onset vascular dementia within a couple of years (no history of this in the family). Eating wheat when you have celiac disease is similarly inflammatory, it seems, and can cause all sorts of seemingly unrelated problems.
Re: Ultra-processed foods may contribute to cognitive decline
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
Freshly baked bread is available to _everyone_. Buy some flour, take a cup of flour, mix some water, maybe some salt, squish it some and bake it. The downfall of society will happen within arms length of wisdom and knowledge.
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This entire subthread is proof why we need n-gate to come back- and also a living example of why they were likely overloaded with content, and burned out