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Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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A more energy efficient dishwasher would be nice though...

Your children, if you have any, should make for rather efficient dishwashers at no additional cost if you play it smart.

Except for the drastically increased amount of water usage. The cost is negligible to run the dishwasher compared to the additional hot water usage.

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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I think this is going a bit too far. Sometimes it's perfectly legitimate to serve an ideological need, because there's enough people with that particular ideology.

Eg, things like Mastodon are great if you want to find a community that best fits you, because you have a rare interest or some characteristic controversial for a reason or another that makes existing on some place like Twitter difficult. So you can find a community that enforces standards that are very close to your ideal, and delegate that to them, and just do your own thing.

Not everything has to be like Twitter or Facebook, aiming to swallow the entire planet. There's room in the world for places like Hacker News that are only relevant to a small segment of the population. What's important though is to have a good sense of perspective about what need you're serving and how many people are there who need that. If you're aiming for something like decentralization that will have some costs to it that means you're unlikely to ever go world-wide. But so long you're happy enough with that, there's nothing wrong with it.

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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My dishwasher has a beeper for when it’s done like a microwave. It drives me up a wall!! I don’t care when dishes are done, I don’t need to attend to them urgently. They can sit there clean until I’m ready for them. There is no way to disable this beeper and it goes off every minute after the cycle is complete. Thank god the dishwasher has a wall switch to the circuit so I can just kill it but oh man. Never buying Bo…

I've got a couple devices that are useable from my phone only. My first reaction to your comment was "why not have a wifi status page for my dishwasher?" Hell, you could put a 90 cent weight sensor on the racks to tell you when they've actually been unloaded vs. the door has just been opened. On the other hand I don't want another damn app. Why is all that crap bluetooth and phone-only? Why can't I install these thin…

I feel like a simple email would be a much cleaner and cheaper solution than literally everything else that "smart" appliance manufacturers do. It might be a really "disconnected from the average person" opinion though.

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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post #70
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might be using yours wrong? See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rBO8neWw04

I've watched that actually. I since started using the pre-wash dispenser, and done routine cleanings (and if your appliance requires routine cleanings, making you disassemble the thing to access the filter is inexcusable). It's improved things a little, but not enough. Considering that all 3 Maytag appliances I bought at the same time are defective in various ways, I'm treating it as another instance of a major brand…

For the record, we are still extremely pleased with our Miele washing machine and dish washer that we bought about five years ago.

A bit pricey, though. Never heard of Maytag. If I saw it in a store, I would probably guess it's a brand from China. But given your description, it sounds like you are in the US or so? At least that's whence I usually hear the complaints about brands selling out.

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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post #21

Pro tip about your home dishwasher: Run hot water out of your faucet until it’s extremely hot before starting your dishwasher. (Considering the faucet and dishwasher use the same plumbing to pipe water in) The reason why is dishwashers line to do a rinse in the first cycle and for most people the water isn’t hot enough. So it fills up with lukewarm water and isn’t as effective. Another option is to have a hot water c…

Every dishwasher I've owned has a cold water inlet and uses electricity to heat the water to the required temperature.

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Any crap left on the plate will get spread on everything else, so you have to pre-wash everything first. You should really do it at home too, [...] Why? If I have to wash my own dishes, that would defeat the point of a dishwasher..

You'll have to clean that stuff out of your dish washer otherwise.

That's less work than pre-washing all the dishes.

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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This is a fantastic analogy for something which has bothered me for years! One example which comes to mind is pushback received on a pull request for a cron job. This script did some heavy lifting so it took a few minutes to run.

The reviewer suggested all sorts of minor optimizations so a script which runs once per week in the middle of the night with no one waiting on it could run tens of seconds faster. A complete waste of time and effort to my mind, and one understandable as the OP describes: a technical challenge which, when solved, equates to zero consumer upside.

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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A more energy efficient dishwasher would be nice though...

I don’t want more energy efficient things. I want more clean energy so that the things I use can work better by using as much energy as they need instead of cutting corners for efficiency.

Re: Nobody needs a faster dishwasher – solve real user needs

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My dishwasher has a beeper for when it’s done like a microwave. It drives me up a wall!! I don’t care when dishes are done, I don’t need to attend to them urgently. They can sit there clean until I’m ready for them. There is no way to disable this beeper and it goes off every minute after the cycle is complete. Thank god the dishwasher has a wall switch to the circuit so I can just kill it but oh man. Never buying Bo…

Our new(er) Bosch dishwasher beeps three times at the end of the cycle. I like it because it alerts me to open the door a couple of inches to promote drying.

All the dishwashers[1] I had previous to this had a real drying cycle that actively vented the humidity and was effective. My Bosch doesn't vent the compartment so the dishes take forever to dry if you don't open the door.

[1] Said dishwashers all manufactured over 20 years ago, before draconian energy efficiency requirements came into effect.

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