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Google Search Is Dying (2022)

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Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

#31
> Still, it is a bit interesting that this short and simple post is now one of the most upvoted things of all time on Hacker News

Is that some kind of easter egg, just expressing hope, or is this pointing to some other post, or am I missing something? This post has 33 points at the time I'm writing this and doesn't seem to be a repost (according to https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=dkb.blog)?

Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

#34
post #31

> Still, it is a bit interesting that this short and simple post is now one of the most upvoted things of all time on Hacker News Is that some kind of easter egg, just expressing hope, or is this pointing to some other post, or am I missing something? This post has 33 points at the time I'm writing this and doesn't seem to be a repost (according to https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=dkb.blog )?

The original HN article[0] has 3636 points as I write this comment.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30347719

Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

#35
From the example image half way through this article...

> "retool slack integration"

I've just googled this and the top hit was literally the instructions to set up the slack integration. Not a link to it, the actual instructions, although the link to the source page in the Retool docs was there. The rest of the hits were all hits in the Retool docs, except for the last result, which was someone making an HN comment making exactly my point on the last time this was discussed.

Google search isn't broken or dying.

Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

#36

> The long answer is that most of the web has become too inauthentic to trust. Reddit was also partly successful in that regard because it catered to niche communities who ask the most interesting questions and, trolls aside, responses from the community that's generally trustworthy. There are literally subreddits with discussions on solutions that are deemed better than what you get from customer support. Reddit als…

I never understood how Reddit isn’t an advertising powerhouse. Their users literally voluntarily segregate by interest, but the proper tech never got built out. Last I checked they integrated a 3rd party solution for that.

If you look at their software dev efforts it should be painfully obvious why they're not a powerhouse of anything :-)

They had great product-market fit early on, were boosted by YN, and inertia is a huge thing.

Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

#37
> the first few non-ad results

... and ...

> sites filled with affiliate links and ads.

... suggest the poster is, for some reason, not using an ad-blocker. Strange.

> What it actually means is that the amount of people using Reddit as a search engine is growing.

I don't understand this claim. If reddit search is Google search + the keyword reddit, then either people are finding non-reddit results that way, which seems reallyt weird and unlikely; or they're finding reddit results that way - meaning that they really are using reddit.

Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

#38
post #4

It's only a matter of time until companies start posting in Reddit to fake good user experience. For example, who the hell knows who mr fart32snap is on this reddit discussion thread talking about good cheap microphone? I don't doubt there's already some of these out there. IMO, the only way this can ever be truly fixed is to have a 1 to 1 mapping between a person and their online personality. An account and their po…

Buzz marketing, shilling, astroturfing... were already things at almost the very start of dotcoms, and before. (Microsoft actually pioneered some of it in online services before the Web, but I recall some early Web startups in this space.)

Maybe starting a decade ago, when I'd tell people about Reddit, I'd switched to telling them that the front page already appeared dominated by marketers and manipulators, but that most of the random subreddits were more genuine. Though even some subs at the time, such as for groups of interest, were run by marketers or in service of marketers. (Many subs seemed moderated by the eclectic mix of kinds of people you could find to do that thankless task for free. But some were obviously effectively working for brands, especially when groups of interest were built around buying stuff.)

Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

#39
Didn’t anyone consider that google was extremely good at indexing websites, i mean normal websites (webs of interlinked hypertexts) but nowadays few people publish their content on regular websites but do so in the form of posts on reddit/instagram/youtube etc?

That might explain a lot…

Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

#40

> The long answer is that most of the web has become too inauthentic to trust. Reddit was also partly successful in that regard because it catered to niche communities who ask the most interesting questions and, trolls aside, responses from the community that's generally trustworthy. There are literally subreddits with discussions on solutions that are deemed better than what you get from customer support. Reddit als…

> Reddit also doesn't have "promoted" content / responses

Reddit does have promoted content, but it's only at the toplevel, if you use new.reddit (possibly the official client as well) and you don't have an adblocker you'll see them interspersed in feeds (on subreddits anyway, not sure e.g. /r/all has ads as I don't use it, and usually use the old theme anyway).

It also suffers quite a bit from astroturfing / content farms, but it's not always clear how the accounts are monetised, they're mostly visible as repost bots farming karma.

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