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Google Search Is Dying (2022)

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Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit definitely has promoted content and native advertising. Perhaps you're not seeing it because you're using the far superior old.reddit.com?

The biggest form of this advertising isn't actually done with the knowledge of Reddit. Organizations use Reddit accounts to astroturf narratives together, since Reddit is pseudonymous. Companies who need better PR, or just a good controversy, can do this much more cheaply on Reddit than any other internet forum. Still, the high-quality advice on Reddit that is authentic can be the most useful stuff on the internet.

True but, for example, I still find that restaurants and travel advice is far superior on Reddit than Google.

Reddit is often my starting point for beginning research on purchasing decisions.

Although when buying a digital piano, I ended up finding dedicated boards like pianoworld to be better

EDIT

Ironically, I also find YouTube to be a great source of research, mostly because the cost to produce content is higher and I think it's somewhat harder to produce inauthentic content (at least to me so far for the things I am researching)

Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

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It's only a matter of time until companies start posting in Reddit to fake good user experience. For example, who the hell knows who mr fart32snap is on this reddit discussion thread talking about good cheap microphone? I don't doubt there's already some of these out there. IMO, the only way this can ever be truly fixed is to have a 1 to 1 mapping between a person and their online personality. An account and their po…

> It's only a matter of time until companies start posting in Reddit to fake good user experience.

Uh, it has been like this for years. I personally know a friend who was hired to post fake comments on reddit 5 years ago. It could have been longer and I just don't know.

I guess the whole thing works very well because people still have "doubt" if it happened today.

Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

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> The long answer is that most of the web has become too inauthentic to trust. Reddit was also partly successful in that regard because it catered to niche communities who ask the most interesting questions and, trolls aside, responses from the community that's generally trustworthy. There are literally subreddits with discussions on solutions that are deemed better than what you get from customer support. Reddit als…

> Reddit was Yes, it was somewhat good in the past but an alternative is sorely needed. Most popular subs (at least the one I frequent) are moderated to the point that censored would be the more appropriate word to describe the situation. Then there are whole subs banned (including non political) for wrongthink.

that is great for increasing the quality of search results, moderation is awesome

Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

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There are entire subreddits that are completely bot driven and no human creates any input.

I am using some subreddits very frequently (like r/hackernews) but boy has it become obvious how many bots there really are.

I think though, that we will not see a startup solving this any time soon, that will not succumb to bots itself.

I'm breaking my head since January (as a hobby) to create some ai driven semantic search index, but the problem starts with trust.

Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

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> The long answer is that most of the web has become too inauthentic to trust. Reddit was also partly successful in that regard because it catered to niche communities who ask the most interesting questions and, trolls aside, responses from the community that's generally trustworthy. There are literally subreddits with discussions on solutions that are deemed better than what you get from customer support. Reddit als…

Reddit is one of the most astroturfed places on the internet, and there's an entire ecology of PR/marketing firms that focus exclusively on it. There's also a thriving market in "high karma" accounts, which can be bought for as little as $30. > Reddit also doesn't have "promoted" content / responses It does, though. Your karma basically determines the visibility of any new post you try to make. And low-karma or new a…

> Reddit's system is terrible

This doesn’t match my experience of reading Reddit

Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

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post #4

It's only a matter of time until companies start posting in Reddit to fake good user experience. For example, who the hell knows who mr fart32snap is on this reddit discussion thread talking about good cheap microphone? I don't doubt there's already some of these out there. IMO, the only way this can ever be truly fixed is to have a 1 to 1 mapping between a person and their online personality. An account and their po…

I've had friends at companies ask me to make positive posts to both reddit and news.ycombinator -- there are definately news.ycombinator upvote/post groups, who help push articles to the front page (I'm not sure how successful they are, but I know they exist).

I have seen some weird stuff astroturfed on HN. I think the strangest ones were lung pressure trainers and remineralizing toothpaste.

Re: Google Search Is Dying (2022)

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> The long answer is that most of the web has become too inauthentic to trust. Reddit was also partly successful in that regard because it catered to niche communities who ask the most interesting questions and, trolls aside, responses from the community that's generally trustworthy. There are literally subreddits with discussions on solutions that are deemed better than what you get from customer support. Reddit als…

I never understood how Reddit isn’t an advertising powerhouse. Their users literally voluntarily segregate by interest, but the proper tech never got built out. Last I checked they integrated a 3rd party solution for that.

I would guess they have a huge problem with ad blocking
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