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because AI scales better
Does it? Humans are cheap.
Until they start feeling important ("I'm the face of your show!") and they start demanding pay rises, better working conditions, etc.
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This reads like satire, but looking through your comments make me believe you're sincere. This here is a great example of when propaganda gets its own life and spreads by itself. Like malware but infecting humans. Snowden was a russian spy too right? Let's forget the US was breaking its own laws because Russia. So simple.
Now, what the OP you responded to wrote wasnt very compelling to begin with, However...
It takes a sick kind of person to read through someone's comment history to determine where they fall politically so they can make judgements on their character, rather than what is written by the comment that sparked them to dig into their history.
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#53Some anecdata: I've seen a big increase in pro-Chinese commentors on the internet in the past year or so. HN especially. It keeps popping up in subtle ways. I'm not saying it's necessarily propaganda or psyops, but we'd be fools to believe China isn't doing that quite extensively. Hell, America does it; we just had a scandal where the military was doing that when they shouldn't have been.
I've noticed this too. Wouldn't it be a wonderful thing if people in the West were able to participate in conversations inside China the way advocates for China can in other countries.
Whatever the topic, they don't have to be right. Just by obsfucating, delaying, misdirecting, going off on tangents, quoting dodgy research, burying the topic with downvotes whatever...the subject matter just gets turned into a muddy swamp with no clear conclusion and then everybody moves past it to the next new thing. Mission accomplished.
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This post isn’t excusing Chinese actions towards Uighurs, but is heavily critical of anti-Chinese criticisms of their Uighur policy. Note that Uighurs are majority Muslim and they aren’t all being exterminated (certainly some are), but the primary efforts seem to be making that region and ethnicity much more similar in culture to Han-Chinese. It rings of the “white genocide” and “Jews will not replace us” slogans. Th…
>Note that Uighurs are majority Muslim and they aren’t all being exterminated (certainly some are), but the primary efforts seem to be making that region and ethnicity much more similar in culture to Han-Chinese. It rings of the “white genocide” and “Jews will not replace us” slogans. This is quite the impressive paragraph. What are you even saying?
The Chinese government is homogenizing most of the population, not exterminating it.
The same idiotic argument of “extermination” is used by some people in our society.
Re: Chinese disinformation targeting U.S. features fake people on fake news programs
#55Some anecdata: I've seen a big increase in pro-Chinese commentors on the internet in the past year or so. HN especially. It keeps popping up in subtle ways. I'm not saying it's necessarily propaganda or psyops, but we'd be fools to believe China isn't doing that quite extensively. Hell, America does it; we just had a scandal where the military was doing that when they shouldn't have been.
>HN especially.
That's probably only me. I've been more pro-China on HN because I believe western media is spreading way too much anti-China propaganda. I believe it needs better balance. The truth is always somewhere in between the propaganda on both sides.
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Oddly, I've noticed the opposite. Since around 2015 or so, I noticed a very sharp increase of anti-Chinese rhetoric (or any rhetoric for that matter) on the internet and news. Not that it was positive before, but it was barely mentioned. Now it feels like Chinese this and Chinese that come up in every other political conversation. Not that I was around for the Red Scare or Cold War, but China feels like it replaced R…
Then, again, it might just be a logical reaction to the fundamental political changes that have occurred in the PRC since Xi Jinping came to power in 2013, especially after he changed the constitution to remove term limits in 2018. Under his rule, private business has been increasingly marginalized, state security strengthened, public surveillance hugely magnified, and diplomacy changed from the prior Deng-era "taogu…
No, I believe this was going to happen no matter what.
It happened with the Japanese in the 80s/90s as well where American media vilified Japan because it thinks Japan will become more powerful than the US.
China is trying to climb its way out of the "cheap labor" economy and into a developed economy. The US and the west are trying its hardest to prevent this from happening and this includes using every tactic possible including propaganda, sanctions, etc.
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Well yes, you're going to see anti-chinese sentiments when they're engaged in Uighur extermination. What did you think would happen?
This post isn’t excusing Chinese actions towards Uighurs, but is heavily critical of anti-Chinese criticisms of their Uighur policy. Note that Uighurs are majority Muslim and they aren’t all being exterminated (certainly some are), but the primary efforts seem to be making that region and ethnicity much more similar in culture to Han-Chinese. It rings of the “white genocide” and “Jews will not replace us” slogans. Th…
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This reads like satire, but looking through your comments make me believe you're sincere. This here is a great example of when propaganda gets its own life and spreads by itself. Like malware but infecting humans. Snowden was a russian spy too right? Let's forget the US was breaking its own laws because Russia. So simple.
Now, what the OP you responded to wrote wasnt very compelling to begin with, However... It takes a sick kind of person to read through someone's comment history to determine where they fall politically so they can make judgements on their character, rather than what is written by the comment that sparked them to dig into their history.
Or just someone not sure if it's trolling. It's 2 clicks and a quick scroll. Breathe.
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Then, again, it might just be a logical reaction to the fundamental political changes that have occurred in the PRC since Xi Jinping came to power in 2013, especially after he changed the constitution to remove term limits in 2018. Under his rule, private business has been increasingly marginalized, state security strengthened, public surveillance hugely magnified, and diplomacy changed from the prior Deng-era "taogu…
No, I believe this was going to happen no matter what. It happened with the Japanese in the 80s/90s as well where American media vilified Japan because it thinks Japan will become more powerful than the US. China is trying to climb its way out of the "cheap labor" economy and into a developed economy. The US and the west are trying its hardest to prevent this from happening and this includes using every tactic possib…
1985 article: THE DANGER FROM JAPAN
https://www.nytimes.com/1985/07/28/magazine/the-danger-from-...
Re: Chinese disinformation targeting U.S. features fake people on fake news programs
#60Some anecdata: I've seen a big increase in pro-Chinese commentors on the internet in the past year or so. HN especially. It keeps popping up in subtle ways. I'm not saying it's necessarily propaganda or psyops, but we'd be fools to believe China isn't doing that quite extensively. Hell, America does it; we just had a scandal where the military was doing that when they shouldn't have been.
> HN especially. That's probably only me. I've been more pro-China on HN because I believe western media is spreading way too much anti-China propaganda. I believe it needs better balance. The truth is always somewhere in between the propaganda on both sides.
The anti-china sentiment is completely over the top. Especially in the last couple months.
It is disinformation to say "both sides", but it is in some extent true. The real way to stop disinformation is teach information literacy, but that would stop propaganda being effective for everyone.