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Can the West’s perplexing employment miracle continue?

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Re: Can the West’s perplexing employment miracle continue?

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> no one going to work for three years Where did this happen?

I'm not sure about three years, but anywhere the service and entertainment industry was shut down due to Covid. Eg California.

It was not even a year before people in the film business were returning to sets.

Re: Can the West’s perplexing employment miracle continue?

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> to a high interest one We're at 4.50–4.75, no? That's not low, but it's not high either. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_funds_rate#Historica...

The better question is: what rate are most ppl paying on their credit card debt.

As of November 2022, 20.40% in the aggregate[1].

[1] https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/TERMCBCCINTNS

Re: Can the West’s perplexing employment miracle continue?

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I think it can but I wouldn't call it a miracle. The "boomer bulge" in the workforce is in the process of entering retirement en masse. The generations replacing them are smaller. This will contribute to higher inflation (lots of money that was sitting in real estate and 401ks being withdrawn to compete over a limited supply of basic goods and services like healthcare), and also to lower unemployment. It doesn't nece…

> I promise it is quite possible for a nation to banish unemployment but still have a majority of people struggling to get by. You can always end up having a bunch of low paying jobs that don't allow for a good standard of living. Everyone will be employed but I'm sure no one will end up enjoying that.

You can also have a workforce so small that infrastructure starts to decay and you have to triage what services are staffed.

Re: Can the West’s perplexing employment miracle continue?

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> to a high interest one We're at 4.50–4.75, no? That's not low, but it's not high either. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_funds_rate#Historica...

Not only it's not high compared to historical rates but worse I think is that Fed's real interest rate is still in the negative territory: January CPI report headline came at 6.3% YoY and core at 5.3% YoY (it's negative with current rates even if you use the PCE index as a baseline, which is the Fed's favorite index to measure inflation).

How does one determine the 'real' interest rate?

Re: Can the West’s perplexing employment miracle continue?

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I thought this was a bizarre (OK, I'll be honest, shitty) article. The beginning starts out by seemingly making the point that Japan has low unemployment because it has a lot of inefficient, "make-work" jobs, e.g. "smartly dressed women help you use the lifts" (subtext being who needs help using an elevator) and "a team of four people was involved in the preparation of your correspondent’s gin martini". OK, fair enou…

I agree with most of this, but birth rates are not relevant. Note that Japan has had a very low fertility rate for years but still has folks for all those make-work jobs.

In the U.S. what changed over the past 5 years is legal immigration: it was drastically cut and has not been restored.

So as citizens and existing long-term residents pursue better jobs or time at home, there are far fewer new residents eager for lower paying jobs. If you talk to businesses that have traditionally employed these newly arrived folks—food service, agriculture, construction, childcare, etc—they will be crystal clear about the impact they are seeing.

Places with desirable standards of living don’t need replacement level births. They just need the right levels of immigration. People will come, ready to work on day one.

Re: Can the West’s perplexing employment miracle continue?

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This isn't a high interest rate ecconomy, this is normal interest rates. Rates have been absurdily low for a while so you may not remember it, but history provides a record.

Historians in 500 years will stare in wonder at the stunning evidence we did not, in fact, build ALL the infrastructure, physical and otherwise, during the last ~25 years of absurdly cheap money.

Most of the world's infrastructure was, indeed, built in the last 25 years. It's just that it wasn't in the West.

Re: Can the West’s perplexing employment miracle continue?

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> no one going to work for three years Where did this happen?

Yeah, I don’t know a single person that didn’t work.

I know two that previously worked as waitresses, and were let go immediately once emergency was declared. Fortunately for them they used the time and money from unemployment to return to school and will be soon graduate with much better careers.

Re: Can the West’s perplexing employment miracle continue?

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We have gone from a zero interest rate economy to a high interest one within months. Whoever claims to accurately predict what's going to happen in the next few years is talking out of their ass. We know inflation should start decreasing within a year or so, but you cannot predict how millions of people will react to suddenly not being able to afford stuff.

Inflation has already decreased. A lot of articles talk about year-over-year inflation which isn't a useful measure. Seasonally adjusted, month-over-month, is what you want to look at.

Whether this decrease is sustainable is indeed an open question.

Re: Can the West’s perplexing employment miracle continue?

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post #31

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Not only it's not high compared to historical rates but worse I think is that Fed's real interest rate is still in the negative territory: January CPI report headline came at 6.3% YoY and core at 5.3% YoY (it's negative with current rates even if you use the PCE index as a baseline, which is the Fed's favorite index to measure inflation).

How does one determine the 'real' interest rate?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_interest_rate
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