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Re: ARM64 Linux Workstation

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Post by diffeomorphism »

neoromantique wrote: post #441
diffeomorphism wrote: post #418

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Mac Mini m2 pro with decent ram and storage starts at 2000. According to apple current intel and amd chips are faster but much less efficient (ignoring how to define that for now). If you are the "mini" target customer, 2000 will buy you lots of PC hardware. The article list an m1 ultra with 128gb of ram, so 6000 or so. Not sure what the target market for this is, but the intersection of "4000 does not cut it" and "I…

>current intel and amd chips are faster These are close to 2k for CPU alone AFAIK. I must admit though I am biased as I am yet to find a fault or reason for an upgrade in my original M1 machine, and I had dual xeon workstation prior to that.

Apple compared to the current 13th generation i5 and i7 chips. Those are not remotely close to 2k.

Re: ARM64 Linux Workstation

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Post by whalesalad »

Maursault wrote: post #425
whalesalad wrote: post #258

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I want to respond but I can’t tell if this is a joke or not.

It's not. Two Studios Max considerably outperform one Studio Ultra.

What workload do you have that is easy to run across two separate hosts? And how easy is it for you to maintain the workflow? Sounds like a pain in the butt unless you’re using them in a headless fashion.

Re: ARM64 Linux Workstation

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Post by satysin »

wlonkly wrote: post #452
satysin wrote: post #352

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> Using MacOS on it feels like I have a ferrari with square wheels. Indeed macOS is the weakest part when working on Apple Silicon. Sure it’s quite pretty but it stumbles over itself with terrible quality of life features. macOS looks modern but feels around ten years behind other desktops now. Apple love to talk about how professionals and power users can get so much work done with the amazing Apple Silicon but igno…

It's funny, I love Stage Manager. I was worried about what I'd do after the Ventura upgrade because TotalSpaces is on life support, and so there was a chance it might stop working and I'd have to go back to 1-dimensional spaces after relying on two-dimensional spaces, and various 2D window manager workspace things, for many years. But Stage Manager is what I actually wanted all along: let me group windows together, a…

I am glad you find it useful. You may not have heard of the app rcmd before but it works nicely with Stage Manager. Might be worth checking out as I found it make Stage Manager a lot more functional. https://lowtechguys.com/rcmd/

Re: ARM64 Linux Workstation

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Post by mouse_ »

yencabulator wrote: post #448
notpushkin wrote: post #353

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I like the idea behind trackpoint, but I just can't get used to it. Any tips?

It really helps if you set up your environment to mostly not need accurate clicks. For example, avoid needing to grab window title bars or corners, use keyboard-driven window managers. Use keyboard commands instead of clicking buttons. When I last used a Thinkpad, the only time I had to aim at all was clicking links on web pages. I still used the trackpoint to switch active window, but it was a "shove toward upper ri…

The way I have my trackpoint set up (low sensitivity, no acceleration) makes it more accurate than trackpad, even. No acceleration means it always behaves extremely predictably; for me it's most useful when typing in forms and clicking around in them. It's extremely accurate and useful when set up properly. You can make tons of fine, precise movements and clicks when filling out documents and forms without even needing to move your hands from the keyboard.

Re: ARM64 Linux Workstation

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Post by yencabulator »

mouse_ wrote: post #464
yencabulator wrote: post #448

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It really helps if you set up your environment to mostly not need accurate clicks. For example, avoid needing to grab window title bars or corners, use keyboard-driven window managers. Use keyboard commands instead of clicking buttons. When I last used a Thinkpad, the only time I had to aim at all was clicking links on web pages. I still used the trackpoint to switch active window, but it was a "shove toward upper ri…

The way I have my trackpoint set up (low sensitivity, no acceleration) makes it more accurate than trackpad, even. No acceleration means it always behaves extremely predictably; for me it's most useful when typing in forms and clicking around in them. It's extremely accurate and useful when set up properly. You can make tons of fine, precise movements and clicks when filling out documents and forms without even needi…

Low sensitivity and no acceleration means it takes a very long time to move from one side of screen to the other. I guess I really don't fill in many forms where I can't tab between fields. But many of my habits also predate mainstream availability of GUIs...

Re: ARM64 Linux Workstation

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Post by Maursault »

whalesalad wrote: post #462
Maursault wrote: post #425

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not. Two Studios Max considerably outperform one Studio Ultra.

What workload do you have that is easy to run across two separate hosts? And how easy is it for you to maintain the workflow? Sounds like a pain in the butt unless you’re using them in a headless fashion.

Unless there is one single never-ending processing task... forever... I see your point. Generally, everyone else has a never-ending series of processing tasks that obviously can be shared between as many processors as are available. Otherwise, we'd only ever need one single computer and one single person operating it.

Re: ARM64 Linux Workstation

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Post by wlonkly »

satysin wrote: post #463
wlonkly wrote: post #452

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It's funny, I love Stage Manager. I was worried about what I'd do after the Ventura upgrade because TotalSpaces is on life support, and so there was a chance it might stop working and I'd have to go back to 1-dimensional spaces after relying on two-dimensional spaces, and various 2D window manager workspace things, for many years. But Stage Manager is what I actually wanted all along: let me group windows together, a…

I am glad you find it useful. You may not have heard of the app rcmd before but it works nicely with Stage Manager. Might be worth checking out as I found it make Stage Manager a lot more functional. https://lowtechguys.com/rcmd/

Oh that's nice, thanks!

Re: ARM64 Linux Workstation

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Post by noloblo »

jodrellblank wrote: post #403
wkat4242 wrote: post #210

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Great idea piping a website straight into a shell.

Installing gigabytes of Linux and applications from people you have no contract with, who have no obligation towards you, is a good idea but running a script to install it, that’s too far?

Asahi Linux is one of the best projects in OSS community I trust their work to run on my m1 m2 macs

Re: ARM64 Linux Workstation

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Post by throwdbaaway »

mdaniel wrote: post #35
silisili wrote: post #11

That's really impressive! That said, I really wish someone other than Apple would release something like an ARM64 NUC, with good Linux compat. Even something on par with the SD Gen 2 should be plenty to run a desktop day to day.

I was really tempted to try this out: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34027280 but the 16GB of RAM was too tiny for my day-to-day. It seemed to be a common trend in arm64 things one can buy nowadays

Good info. After reading this, I bought an Orange Pi 5 with 8GB of RAM, and now it is up and running with Ubuntu 22.04. The spec seems to be similar to a c6g.xlarge.
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