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Re: Chinese disinformation targeting U.S. features fake people on fake news programs

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In yet another predictable win for USA, Fox News' non-AI low-tech approach has all the fakeness at a mere fraction of the cost!

See, for example: [1] concerning the unbelievably incorrect account of Boris Johnson's resignation [2] delivered by someone [3] billed as a former advisor to Johnson, who does indeed dissemble like someone who has sat at the feet of the master, but who seems rather to be a self-promoting ex-youtuber and social media guru wannabe.

1: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/tucker-car...

2: https://twitter.com/JamesAALongman/status/154709789313961984...

3: https://scrutable.science/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=3430&start=35...

Re: Chinese disinformation targeting U.S. features fake people on fake news programs

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pessimizer wrote: post #23

Scary. Next they might hire two white people, put them in front of a green screen, and do the exact same thing. That will be really terrifying because they won't even need to use deepfakes. Have the Chinese discovered fiverr? They could generate hundreds of these a day.

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Re: Chinese disinformation targeting U.S. features fake people on fake news programs

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antibasilisk wrote: post #44
pessimizer wrote: post #23

Scary. Next they might hire two white people, put them in front of a green screen, and do the exact same thing. That will be really terrifying because they won't even need to use deepfakes. Have the Chinese discovered fiverr? They could generate hundreds of these a day.

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Re: Chinese disinformation targeting U.S. features fake people on fake news programs

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Post by xboxnolifes »

earlyam wrote: post #13

Some anecdata: I've seen a big increase in pro-Chinese commentors on the internet in the past year or so. HN especially. It keeps popping up in subtle ways. I'm not saying it's necessarily propaganda or psyops, but we'd be fools to believe China isn't doing that quite extensively. Hell, America does it; we just had a scandal where the military was doing that when they shouldn't have been.

Oddly, I've noticed the opposite. Since around 2015 or so, I noticed a very sharp increase of anti-Chinese rhetoric (or any rhetoric for that matter) on the internet and news. Not that it was positive before, but it was barely mentioned. Now it feels like Chinese this and Chinese that come up in every other political conversation.

Not that I was around for the Red Scare or Cold War, but China feels like it replaced Russia as the Boogieman.

Re: Chinese disinformation targeting U.S. features fake people on fake news programs

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Post by tatrajim »

xboxnolifes wrote: post #47
earlyam wrote: post #13

Some anecdata: I've seen a big increase in pro-Chinese commentors on the internet in the past year or so. HN especially. It keeps popping up in subtle ways. I'm not saying it's necessarily propaganda or psyops, but we'd be fools to believe China isn't doing that quite extensively. Hell, America does it; we just had a scandal where the military was doing that when they shouldn't have been.

Oddly, I've noticed the opposite. Since around 2015 or so, I noticed a very sharp increase of anti-Chinese rhetoric (or any rhetoric for that matter) on the internet and news. Not that it was positive before, but it was barely mentioned. Now it feels like Chinese this and Chinese that come up in every other political conversation. Not that I was around for the Red Scare or Cold War, but China feels like it replaced R…

Then, again, it might just be a logical reaction to the fundamental political changes that have occurred in the PRC since Xi Jinping came to power in 2013, especially after he changed the constitution to remove term limits in 2018. Under his rule, private business has been increasingly marginalized, state security strengthened, public surveillance hugely magnified, and diplomacy changed from the prior Deng-era "taoguang yanghui" (keep a low profiles, bide your time) to the current "wolf-warrior" strategy. The result has been in countries such as South Korea a growing mistrust and disliked of China (now 80%+) compared to the Jiang Zemin - Hu Jintao eras.

The current "Two Assemblies" meetings in Beijing are likely only to exacerbate this trend, with, e,g. all control of the security agencies shifted away from the State Council to Xi Jinping himself.

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