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Re: Self-Host All the Things?

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Post by stonewall »

triyambakam wrote: post #73
stonewall wrote: post #68

I self-host literally everything (email, calendar/contacts, VOIP, XMPP, you name it) from by basement with used 1U servers from eBay and a cable internet connection. It was probably more hassle than most people would want to bother with to get it set up. But, with everything up and running, there's very little maintenance. I probably spend a few hours a month tinkering still, just because I enjoy it. I use a stack of…

Very inspiring and thank you for sharing. I run GrapheneOS too but I haven't set anything up like a Wireguard VPN. What is the rough idea of how that works?

I plug my cable modem into a server running the OPNsense firewall [0], which has a wireguard plugin.

I set up a wireguard VPN in OPNsense.

Then I downloaded the wireguard app in F-Droid, and pasted my credentials from the wireguard Android app into the wireguard configs on the firewall.

I set the VPN in grapheneOS as "always on," so from my phone's perspective, it always has access to my internal network, even when on LTE. All my phones internet traffic ends up going through my home internet connection as a result.

[0] https://opnsense.org/

Re: Self-Host All the Things?

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Post by toast0 »

dijit wrote: post #7
freitzkriesler2 wrote: post #2

Self hosting is great , except it's incredibly frustrating to get a good pipe to your home that has decent upload speeds. Even "business class " is downright awful. Thankfully this is slowly changing but not fast enough! Looking to run my own next cloud instance soon.

I guess that depends on where you live, I have almost the same upload vs download speed on my ISP Bahnhof in Sweden. Proof: https://www.speedtest.net/result/14437484691.png I am always worried about someone deciding to DDoS me though.

DDoS risk seems to be related to the type of services you're hosting. If you host openly available game services or adult media, those seem to attract DDoS, and you need a good relationship with your upstream. If you're just hosting personal things, you're not likely to get DDoSed except for people just hitting random IPs, which could get you anyway.

If it happens, not too much you can do, other than move to real hosting, and let them know upfront, or they'll drop you quick. Note that the first line of DDoS defense at your real hosting is going to be null routing your IP: dropping traffic to that IP, preferably on their upstreams' routers. That's normal and ok, although frustrating for you; doing better has costs.

Re: Self-Host All the Things?

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Post by dijit »

the_af wrote: post #79
ChainOfFools wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People who mark things as junk mail or spam typically have no idea that this action can have an upstream impact on spam filtering algorithms. They typically have no idea how any of this stuff works and just assume that the purpose of marking something is spam is to prevent them from seeing any more of it, personally, in the future. It doesn't occur to them that their preference thus exerts a small influence over the…

I disagree with your modern definition. Spam to me is unsolicited commercial emails. All email "ads" are spam. Newsletters I didn't subscribe to are spam. Anything trying to sell me something I didn't subscribe to is spam. You bet I'm going to mark it as spam and I hope it creates trouble for the sender. PS: I assume we all agree scams, "Russian singles", chain letters, "little Jessica is 4 and dying of cancer", etc,…

The annoyance I felt that I was a “good” postmaster and I was punished as a part of being from a tribe of bad postmasters.

Google et al. can’t tell the difference when you hit spam.

We never bought or sold any email lists, we went out of our way to ensure you wanted to be on the list- we made it single link with no extra checkbox or button to unsubscribe, we emailed only occasionally and above all we did our absolute best to make the content humorous and engaging.

You can make the case that there should be “no automated mail trying to sell things” and honestly, thats fine, but why the hell are people marking the receipts for things they bought as spam?

Re: Self-Host All the Things?

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Post by stonewall »

novok wrote: post #80
stonewall wrote: post #68

I self-host literally everything (email, calendar/contacts, VOIP, XMPP, you name it) from by basement with used 1U servers from eBay and a cable internet connection. It was probably more hassle than most people would want to bother with to get it set up. But, with everything up and running, there's very little maintenance. I probably spend a few hours a month tinkering still, just because I enjoy it. I use a stack of…

How much power does it take? I've realized with some services it's cheaper to use it than the electricity and hardware cost.

I almost certainly don't save any money considering electricity cost. I have a dell r630 for compute and an r730xd that I use as a NAS. Then I have one switch for the rack and a POE switch for the house. Probably 3-5amps total?

If I started over, I would probably choose more efficient gear.

That said, I don't mind paying for the electricity too much. I enjoy the warm fuzzies of knowing my data lives under my roof.

Re: Self-Host All the Things?

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Post by scubbo »

triyambakam wrote: post #70

> which honestly kind of upset me a lot I've seen this language more and more frequently: minimized (kind of) + maximized (a lot) qualifiers. No real insight, just interesting.

In my idiom, at least, "kind of" is not solely deminisher, but can also be an approximater - to say something "kind of upset me" _could_ mean "it upset me, but not a great deal", or it could mean "it had an effect on me which is complicated and difficult to concisely describe, but which can be approximately described as 'upset'". In that reading, this isn't a contradiction at all - "which honestly had an extremely large effect on me which was similar to, but not entirely the same as, being upset".

Re: Self-Host All the Things?

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Post by rhaway84773 »

triyambakam wrote: post #70

> which honestly kind of upset me a lot I've seen this language more and more frequently: minimized (kind of) + maximized (a lot) qualifiers. No real insight, just interesting.

I don’t think the “kind of” here is serving to minimize the “upset ness”. I think it’s describing the fact that the person wasn’t really “upset”, but some other emotion which they can’t express, which was kind of like being upset, but not exactly the same.

Re: Self-Host All the Things?

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Post by zamnos »

the_af wrote: post #79
ChainOfFools wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People who mark things as junk mail or spam typically have no idea that this action can have an upstream impact on spam filtering algorithms. They typically have no idea how any of this stuff works and just assume that the purpose of marking something is spam is to prevent them from seeing any more of it, personally, in the future. It doesn't occur to them that their preference thus exerts a small influence over the…

I disagree with your modern definition. Spam to me is unsolicited commercial emails. All email "ads" are spam. Newsletters I didn't subscribe to are spam. Anything trying to sell me something I didn't subscribe to is spam. You bet I'm going to mark it as spam and I hope it creates trouble for the sender. PS: I assume we all agree scams, "Russian singles", chain letters, "little Jessica is 4 and dying of cancer", etc,…

Personally, the effort to sell me something doesn't need to be there for me to consider it noise, and where marking something as spam (or phishing) are the only ways to tell the system something is noise, I'll mark stuff as spam even if it's not an advertisement.

Re: Self-Host All the Things?

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Post by jeppester »

triyambakam wrote: post #70

> which honestly kind of upset me a lot I've seen this language more and more frequently: minimized (kind of) + maximized (a lot) qualifiers. No real insight, just interesting.

This is definitely a thing, and I worry that I'm guilty of it myself.

I don't know if I should thank you for this insight or if you just cursed me.

Re: Self-Host All the Things?

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Post by bitsinthesky »

triyambakam wrote: post #70

> which honestly kind of upset me a lot I've seen this language more and more frequently: minimized (kind of) + maximized (a lot) qualifiers. No real insight, just interesting.

Nice catch. I've been using this construction and I've been oblivious to its hypocrisy until now :) I might start seeing how far I can stretch it to make it obvious how silly it is. "Which honestly did not at all upset me a ridiculous amount." Sounds unhinged.
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