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Re: Microsoft Teams is blocking Firefox Nightly

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More like "this guy has a long history of bullying others by pretending that they're out of spec, and now hes' saying someone is out of spec; what are the odds that it's an honest mistake?"

Why go after Firefox then and not Chrome? Do you also think they worry about competition from IBM cloud?

Re: Microsoft Teams is blocking Firefox Nightly

#183
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My organization (which uses Teams) forcibly migrated all Firefox users to Edge a couple of weeks ago and uninstalled FF. They were citing incompatibility with some software and I assumed that meant the new ERP system being adopted by one of the larger departments.

> forcibly migrated all Firefox users to Edge Man, I can understand doing that for regular users who don't care, but as a developer? Just a few weeks ago an integrator for an ERP system our customer had bought was trying to show some details in a Teams call when his PC suddenly rebooted. He came back and apologized, turns out it was a company policy forced reboot. In the middle of the day because what are timezones?…

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Re: Microsoft Teams is blocking Firefox Nightly

#184
post #56

My organization (which uses Teams) forcibly migrated all Firefox users to Edge a couple of weeks ago and uninstalled FF. They were citing incompatibility with some software and I assumed that meant the new ERP system being adopted by one of the larger departments.

Which organization? At least they can get derided publicly for doing this...

Re: Microsoft Teams is blocking Firefox Nightly

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You’re comparing the behavior of a 10 year old with the behavior of grown adults. The guy who bullied your friend in college is probably still a monster today. And here you have a company full of people who were older than that (including grad and doctorate students). If he says the sky is blue you look up. It’s probably cloudy.

I’m about the same age as MS so I’m going to push the analogy. I was 26 in 2000. I hope to God I’m not the same person at 49 after 6 jobs, one failed marriage (and a 12 year current successful one), going through the real estate crash where I lost my shirt, etc. I really hope I’m not the same person I was in college in 1996

Ah yes the “it will be different this time I promise” defense.

Microsoft didn’t get divorced or have six jobs or even study ethics as an undergrad. It’s a corporation. Made up of the same kind of people at the same points in their careers as it has always been.

In other words I get older but Microsoft stays the same age.

Re: Microsoft Teams is blocking Firefox Nightly

#186

It's 2023. Why are we still doing user agent detection? We're supposed to do feature detection. userAgent is deprecated. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Navigator/u...

Just look at all the big companies doing it https://faisalman.github.io/ua-parser-js/

That tool says that I'm on Windows 10 but I'm on 11, so not 100% accurate.

Re: Microsoft Teams is blocking Firefox Nightly

#187

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do people do not remember Dr Dos ? if a coyote eats your cat, its probably not an accident. its more likely because it's a coyote and that's what coyotes do. it's in their nature.

As a counter point there is Hanlon's razor > Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

thats not a counter point, thats just gaslighting. we have almost 50 years of microsoft behavior upon which we can base our judgements.

Re: Microsoft Teams is blocking Firefox Nightly

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post #126

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Devil's advocate: I don't think blocking bleeding-edge browsers is necessarily "stupidity." If you're smart enough to understand all the caveats of running a bleeding edge software program, you're smart enough to change your user agent string. If you're not, you have no business running nightly, and you're probably going to generate a lot of "yOuR sITE is BRokEN!" support emails / forum posts / bug reports for other…

People can run whatever software they want. They don't need your permission, or to know how to file a bug report, or whatever other bullshit you've dreamed up. They're also allowed to complain when a site is broken in their browser. If you don't want to see unsophisticated complaints and bug reports, then you need to stop looking at them. Perhaps find a different profession/hobby where your user-hostile attitude actu…

To be honest, they don't need to find a different profession / hobby, as long as their user hostile attitude makes them money.

Re: Microsoft Teams is blocking Firefox Nightly

#189

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You’re comparing the behavior of a 10 year old with the behavior of grown adults. The guy who bullied your friend in college is probably still a monster today. And here you have a company full of people who were older than that (including grad and doctorate students). If he says the sky is blue you look up. It’s probably cloudy.

I’m about the same age as MS so I’m going to push the analogy. I was 26 in 2000. I hope to God I’m not the same person at 49 after 6 jobs, one failed marriage (and a 12 year current successful one), going through the real estate crash where I lost my shirt, etc. I really hope I’m not the same person I was in college in 1996

"I used to abuse people physically and/or emotionally in my early 20s but now I really hope I'm a different person" seems like a far fetched world view to conjure, to me. Do these people exist?

Re: Microsoft Teams is blocking Firefox Nightly

#190
post #85

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A good way to put pressure on Google is actually to use Firefox.

Yes, because using Firefox doesn’t put money in Google’s coffers. Oh wait…

The way I use Firefox it definitely does not.
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