Much of the old "wisdom" now appears to be wrong based on recent research into protein metabolism. In order to optimize training adaptations and recovery, you need to space your protein intake out in multiple meals per day. This includes breakfast.
Old Wisdom On Daily Meal Frequency
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#22Does the article contradicts itself? "during the zenith period of Grecian and Roman civilization monogamy was not as firmly established as the rule that a health-loving man should content himself with one meal a day, and never eat till he had leisure to digest, i.e., not till the day’s work was wholly done." "Breakfast as we know it didn’t exist for large parts of history. The Romans didn’t really eat it, usually con…
Seconding this. How can one historian put such emphasis on this "only eat after the day's work is done and you can leisure to digest" and the other puts the major meal in the middle of the day?
There is no contradiction. When does the days work end in Mediterranean countries?
Eat before the afternoon siesta.
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#24Does the article contradicts itself? "during the zenith period of Grecian and Roman civilization monogamy was not as firmly established as the rule that a health-loving man should content himself with one meal a day, and never eat till he had leisure to digest, i.e., not till the day’s work was wholly done." "Breakfast as we know it didn’t exist for large parts of history. The Romans didn’t really eat it, usually con…
Well it is an article implying we should get our dietary advice from 400 year old proverbs and historical texts about Rome so it might not be airtight.
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#25This just reads as marketing prattle. Modern research [1][2] shows that our bodies will only prioritize loading up our muscles with carbs if we eat in the morning, as it is an energy-intense process which requires about 10% of the calories consumed and only really makes sense for our bodies to do if we eat at the start of a day. 1: https://nutritionfacts.org/video/eat-more-calories-in-the-morning-than-the-evening/ 2:…
My understanding is that we want to have good metabolic flexibility, where it is easy and normal for our bodies to use stored energy (fat cells) instead of the glucose/glucogen (carbs) thing.
Some people achieve this via low carb diets and keto, but intermittent fasting is also a good way to do it.
I've been on the one meal per day thing for years.
I'm approaching 50 and have a physique comparable or better than most 20 year olds.
So while it's a data point of one, I can say that it works very well for me and I enthusiastically recommend it for multiple reasons, not just bodybuilding.
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#26I found this interesting - How many people today use a meal as a reward for a hard day’s work? How many use it as a “festival” to enjoy with friends and/or family? How many take the time after the meal to relax and let the body digest what they have eaten?
Just like alcohol. Anything in excess is poison.
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#28Does the article contradicts itself? "during the zenith period of Grecian and Roman civilization monogamy was not as firmly established as the rule that a health-loving man should content himself with one meal a day, and never eat till he had leisure to digest, i.e., not till the day’s work was wholly done." "Breakfast as we know it didn’t exist for large parts of history. The Romans didn’t really eat it, usually con…
Well it is an article implying we should get our dietary advice from 400 year old proverbs and historical texts about Rome so it might not be airtight.
I disagree, I take most of my programming advice from lays of Ancient Rome!!
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seconding this. How can one historian put such emphasis on this "only eat after the day's work is done and you can leisure to digest" and the other puts the major meal in the middle of the day?
There is no contradiction. When does the days work end in Mediterranean countries? Eat before the afternoon siesta.
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#30Regardless of whether or not its a good idea for general life, in terms of dieting/weight loss, going to 1 meal a day has made a huge difference for me. With one meal per day, it would be difficult to eat enough calories to gain and/or not lose weight. Also, after about 2 weeks your stomach capacity shrinks which makes it even easier to lose weight because you actually feel full/satisfied on meals that used to seem l…
I agree, and especially if you focus on getting about 100g of protein (depending on your size/sex) during that meal, and healthy carbs (veggies etc), you're not going to have a lot of room left.
My general rule of thumb is that after I do the 100g or protein and side veggies, I let myself have anything else I can eat as a treat.
Normally though, that's not much. Sometimes a little ice cream or something if I'm not being strict and cutting.