Deutschlandticket for regional bus and rail services to be offered for €49/month
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Re: Deutschlandticket for regional bus and rail services to be offered for €49/month
#2This is outdated, currently the planned start date is May 1st. However, there seem to be still discussions about implementation details (availability only in an app vs. as a chip card or on paper, use of a subscription model).
It's a horrible mess - and still too expensive for people with low incomes. In hindsight, it is amazing that the 9 Euro ticket experiment last year worked at all.
Re: Deutschlandticket for regional bus and rail services to be offered for €49/month
#3Mind that the ticket excludes all fast trains, it's only for local trains. Still pretty good, but you shouldn't get the wrong idea and think you can suddenly use every train.
Re: Deutschlandticket for regional bus and rail services to be offered for €49/month
#4This is outdated, currently the planned start date is May 1st. However, there seem to be still discussions about implementation details (availability only in an app vs. as a chip card or on paper, use of a subscription model). It's a horrible mess - and still too expensive for people with low incomes. In hindsight, it is amazing that the 9 Euro ticket experiment last year worked at all.
It's at least good that they're moving in this direction at all. Maybe the pricing isn't spot-on, or the capacity isn't there, or there are debates over the ticketing or there are some other issues. But it seems to me that Germany has recognised the importance of encouraging rail travel, and they're taking the first steps in doing so.
Re: Deutschlandticket for regional bus and rail services to be offered for €49/month
#5That's half the price of what my region of Sweden charges for a comparable ticket, and it covers the whole country, not just one region. Not bad.
Re: Deutschlandticket for regional bus and rail services to be offered for €49/month
#6Mind that the ticket excludes all fast trains, it's only for local trains. Still pretty good, but you shouldn't get the wrong idea and think you can suddenly use every train.
Is “fast” here just the higher-speed inter-city services, or would some intra-city services also be excluded?
Re: Deutschlandticket for regional bus and rail services to be offered for €49/month
#7This is outdated, currently the planned start date is May 1st. However, there seem to be still discussions about implementation details (availability only in an app vs. as a chip card or on paper, use of a subscription model). It's a horrible mess - and still too expensive for people with low incomes. In hindsight, it is amazing that the 9 Euro ticket experiment last year worked at all.
> still too expensive for people with low incomes
It can be said about anything. 49€ per month for transportation in all cities is 5% of a low-income salary; Saying that this effort is not enough validates the theorem that no government is left enough for a leftist to stop saying “It’s not really left”.
Re: Deutschlandticket for regional bus and rail services to be offered for €49/month
#8Mind that the ticket excludes all fast trains, it's only for local trains. Still pretty good, but you shouldn't get the wrong idea and think you can suddenly use every train.
Is “fast” here just the higher-speed inter-city services, or would some intra-city services also be excluded?
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Re: Deutschlandticket for regional bus and rail services to be offered for €49/month
#9Mind that the ticket excludes all fast trains, it's only for local trains. Still pretty good, but you shouldn't get the wrong idea and think you can suddenly use every train.
Is “fast” here just the higher-speed inter-city services, or would some intra-city services also be excluded?
It excludes ICE and IC trains, other regional trains like RE or RB and local means of transport (Trams, Buses ad U-Bahn) are included.
Re: Deutschlandticket for regional bus and rail services to be offered for €49/month
#10By way of comparison, 5 days of all-day, all-zone tickets in Hamburg currently costs €91, so this is a YUGE saving.
I still don't want to travel by train in Germany, because the service right now, quite bluntly, is shit. Delays, overcrowding, poor communication.