Baffling to me that people still use Messenger. Not even switching the company is necessary, with WhatsApp at least they'd have message encryption.
Facebook and Google hand over user data, help police prosecute abortion seekers
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#12Those who have nothing to hide have nothing to fear.
Unless they change the laws and suddenly you have something to hide.
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#13Abortions were a convenient way to keep women locked into the workforce. There could be no escape from wageslaving. Now that the population is in the shitter, they criminalize abortion.
Disingenuous. Contraception and abortions freed women from being locked into patriarchal family structures (see the thousands of years of history where women were passed from father, to brother, to husband with no choice in the matter).
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#15The only take away from this article is that somehow they could read the change logs.
Doesn't that fly in the face of metas own claims to not be able to?
BI seems to be implying that abortion shouldn't be treated as a crime in places where it is a crime.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because they didn't support E2EE and homomorphic encryption.
They never claimed that they support E2EE... The users signed the EULA and know what their rights are.
That did actually surprise me, I thought Facebook took on WhatsApp/insta messaging which is encrypted?
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#17User chat logs and search history released by social media companies to police can be used to prosecute people for abortion, even when they are being investigated for other reasons.
> User chat logs and search history released by social media companies to police can be used to prosecute people for abortion, even when they are being investigated for other reasons.
Firstly, can you even prosecute a woman for abortion? Aren't they legal?
Secondly, if the abortion is illegal, it's not unusual for the state to prosecute someone when the investigation of that person reveals other crimes.
What would you propose instead? That any evidence of secondary criminal activity uncovered during an investigation of the primary activity be ignored?
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#18Is this real? This sounds like a weird trip back into medieval times. Who is the head of that modern Inquisition?
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#19Abortions were a convenient way to keep women locked into the workforce. There could be no escape from wageslaving. Now that the population is in the shitter, they criminalize abortion.
Disingenuous. Contraception and abortions freed women from being locked into patriarchal family structures (see the thousands of years of history where women were passed from father, to brother, to husband with no choice in the matter).
Not entirely, but it is a contributing factor: Women aren't suck having children and stuck staying with some guy because she can't support herself. It isn't the only benefit nor the only outcome of having these - we've had different sorts of abortion and imperfect contraception for thousands of years. Women are still stuck in such societies. Safe contraception and safe abortions keep women from dying. Women are able to have fewer children, spaced further apart, making for healthier women and healthier children - even in such traditional societies, assuming folks have access to these things.
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#20Abortions were a convenient way to keep women locked into the workforce. There could be no escape from wageslaving. Now that the population is in the shitter, they criminalize abortion.
Disingenuous. Contraception and abortions freed women from being locked into patriarchal family structures (see the thousands of years of history where women were passed from father, to brother, to husband with no choice in the matter).
Exactly
For men, it was always "pro-choice", child support and paternity tests are a recent invention (and don't compare with how hard it is to raise a kid)
If men got pregnant you could have your abortion together with your haircut