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Homelessness is primarily a housing problem

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Re: Homelessness is primarily a housing problem

#11
This seems pretty cut and dry to me.

Single Resident Occupancy units used to be incredibly common - from shared adult dorms to chicken-wire hotels. Now they are non-existent.

In 50 years this represented a loss of over a million housing units! Today there are 500k people living on the streets. I don't think it's a coincidence.

Re: Homelessness is primarily a housing problem

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While I don't doubt the statistics brought up in this article, I am skeptical about how the underlying data was sampled. The majority of "homeless" people are not necessarily who everyone is talking about when they think "homeless" (e.g. people dressed in rags sleeping on the streets/doing drugs in public.) I personally suspect that there's quite a difference in that sub-population.

There’s a big crosstalk that happens because almost everyone is referring to the chronically homeless (or whatever the technical term is) whereas the vast majority are homeless for 6 months or less.

Yeah and even here we hear stats like 33% have serious mental illness, 20-40% have drug issues, etc. I'd bet those figures are even more skewed if we look at the long term homeless populations.

But it's true, we really do have to get more housing and the biggest problems there are permitting, NIMBY issues and inflation driving up costs. Ideally we'd work on all significant contributors to homelessness at the same time, though.

Re: Homelessness is primarily a housing problem

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This dude looks like another “content creator” mission on putting out click optimized links with no substance, no data and no real research. These amature opinion distributors are cancer to information society.

Information Society, great band. They still play I think.

Also homelessness is a housing supply issue.

Re: Homelessness is primarily a housing problem

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This seems pretty cut and dry to me. Single Resident Occupancy units used to be incredibly common - from shared adult dorms to chicken-wire hotels. Now they are non-existent. In 50 years this represented a loss of over a million housing units ! Today there are 500k people living on the streets. I don't think it's a coincidence.

See Also: the ridiculous lot size requirements for single trailers and the de facto ban on trailer parks.

Re: Homelessness is primarily a housing problem

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post #7

This dude looks like another “content creator” mission on putting out click optimized links with no substance, no data and no real research. These amature opinion distributors are cancer to information society.

Ok the article was a guest post on the blog by a guy named Aaron Carr which I take is this guy https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaroncarrny/

who seems to be some sort of reasonable expert on homelessness, the article has a lot of sections with stuff like this

>Furthermore, if mental health were the main driver of homelessness, places with the most mental illness would have the most homelessness. However, the data shows the exact opposite:

followed by a scatterplot graph Rate of Serious Mental Illness Versus PIT Count (per capita)

with links to the source of the graph for example this https://www.sightline.org/2022/03/16/homelessness-is-a-housi...

So, what is your actual problem with 'this dude'? Or the 'content' that has been 'created'?

on edit: I could totally understand (without necessarily agreeing) if your post was "this guy looks like someone trying to increase funding for their organization by cherry-picking stats to support a tenuous case"

Re: Homelessness is primarily a housing problem

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I have been studying the homeless problem. In Lansing the problem has exploded 4-5X in the past twenty years. I am looking for a way locally that my tech skills can help, even in a small way. It was suggested that I learn about the efforts of Celebrity Rehab Dr. Drew who is outspoken on the homeless problem. He wants permission to treat the homeless who are mentally ill. He believes not only can they be helped but re…

With respect consider setting aside your laptop and volunteering with Habitat For Humanity or similar. You'll learn valuable skills and have a direct measurable impact in your community.

Re: Homelessness is primarily a housing problem

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post #4

I have been studying the homeless problem. In Lansing the problem has exploded 4-5X in the past twenty years. I am looking for a way locally that my tech skills can help, even in a small way. It was suggested that I learn about the efforts of Celebrity Rehab Dr. Drew who is outspoken on the homeless problem. He wants permission to treat the homeless who are mentally ill. He believes not only can they be helped but re…

Dr drew is a fraud and a grifter unfortunately

Re: Homelessness is primarily a housing problem

#18
Why should issues like homelessness be reducible to one 'primary' cause?

Highlighting housing costs as a significant contributing factor is an important point to make, but there's no need to undermine the other contributing factors through bad faith arguments and cherry picked statistics. Yes, homelessness clusters in cities with robust social programs, esp. those with temperate weather. These same cities are also the most expensive in the US, effectively creating homelessness traps.

As for following in the footsteps of Houston, it's not nearly as feasible for these places. They have up to 10x the homeless populations and 2-3x the housing costs. Compare providing 5,000 units in Houston vs providing 70,000 in Los Angeles.

We should absolutely look to provide more subsidized housing to the needy, but it's clear we aren't aren't able to do it in the most in demand real estate markets in country.

EDIT: numbers

Re: Homelessness is primarily a housing problem

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Homelessness is primarily a problem created by the requirement to continuously upkeep your shelter financially or risk losing it. The ability to perform this upkeep can be wrecked by any number of things, which there is not enough space to list here. The overwhelming majority of people who fail at this upkeep are saved by their support network, so the actual problem is several orders of magnitude larger than any offi…

Often times that support network, will for years sustain people in their own home too, before the couches and other forms (of defacto, but not statistical) homelessness take over.

Re: Homelessness is primarily a housing problem

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This seems pretty cut and dry to me. Single Resident Occupancy units used to be incredibly common - from shared adult dorms to chicken-wire hotels. Now they are non-existent. In 50 years this represented a loss of over a million housing units ! Today there are 500k people living on the streets. I don't think it's a coincidence.

Urban Renewal/Beautification and NIMBYism to an extent killed both trailer parks and single occupancy units.

I'd also note the death of the boarding house between 1920 and 1970 as another issue contributing to things.

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