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Lemon-derived nanoparticles block the progression of kidney stones

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Re: Lemon-derived nanoparticles block the progression of kidney stones

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Post by throwanem »

jv22222 wrote: post #18
zadler wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you have the kidney stones removed the first time round?

I opted for surgery on my 2nd stone and it was a terrible mistake IMHO I should have tried to let it pass. The first was painful but not THAT bad. Worst experience I've ever had. Now when I get a tinge of pain I immediately take Chanca Piedra and it seems to have helped for past few years, no reoccurrence, but could just be anecdotal & conicendental.

What procedure, and what was a mistake about it? I've had to have a 5mm stone removed endoscopically, and that didn't seem to do me any harm, although I was anesthetized for the procedure - if that's the difference, then say no more, as I'm sure it would have been fairly agonizing if I'd been aware of what was going on at the time.

Re: Lemon-derived nanoparticles block the progression of kidney stones

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Post by eigenvalue »

One of the most painful things I’ve ever experienced. I let myself get way too dehydrated while exercising on a very hot summer day, which brought it about (though I was obviously susceptible to them). I started hydrating a lot more and taking potassium supplements and luckily haven’t had them since. Thankfully I went to a great hospital, and the staff there knew how painful the condition is, so there was only around 15 minutes between when I arrived at the ER and when I had an IV of morphine in my arm.

Re: Lemon-derived nanoparticles block the progression of kidney stones

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Post by throwanem »

qskousen wrote: post #24
throwanem wrote: post #2

Time I made a habit of drinking lemonade - a suggestion I'd have expected from my urologist, but not one I'm sorry to have run across whatever the source.

I drink lemonade regularly (I make my own), but to prevent heartburn, as lemon turns into a base in your stomach and is very helpful with heartburn. Now knowing that it is also good for kidney stone prevention just puts the cherry on top!

It looks [1] like limes have about as much citric acid, so cherry limeade should be as good an option, too!

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2637791/

Re: Lemon-derived nanoparticles block the progression of kidney stones

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Post by heavyset_go »

moffkalast wrote: post #14
nrau wrote: post #5

I got my first and so far only (fingers crossed!) kidney stone five years ago. At that time I started drinking lemon juice with hot water to start each day before consuming anything else, and it has so far kept any recurrence of kidney stones away. I really do believe the lemon juice has been key for me in this regard, and it is in any case a very healthy thing to do daily anyways (known and practiced by other cultur…

Why hot water specifically? That sounds like the worst kind of lemonade.

In my experience, it isn't perceived as bitter/sour as it feels in cold water.

Re: Lemon-derived nanoparticles block the progression of kidney stones

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Post by ChatGTP »

throwanem wrote: post #28
ChatGTP wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also I just hate drinking water unless it’s hot. I know doctors tell us to chug water but it’s just tiring sometimes. In winter for example, I just don’t feel thirsty and I just get bored heating water, making time to drink it etc. So yeah, drinking 2-4 litres of water can feel unnatural to me.

I mean, ideally you don't do it all at once, but if you can chug a pint of beer then you can chug a pint of water, too. Thirst is weird. I find it manifests as an unaccountable malaise and lack of focus well before I begin to perceive the sensation I understand as thirstiness per se.

Completely agree , If I’m ever feeling cloudy, foggy, down, extremely tired during the day I usually feel better almost immediately after 2 glasses of water.

Yes I know what you mean, you don’t have to drink it all at once, but I still get bored having to drink. It’s just. Personal thing I guess. Kind of have to force water into my system.

Re: Lemon-derived nanoparticles block the progression of kidney stones

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Post by malloci »

pubby wrote: post #34

Two fun facts about kidney stones: 1) Roller coasters help dislodge and pass kidney stones because of their high-intensity jerky motions. 2) Although calcium supplements increase the risk of kidney stones, dietary calcium seems to reduce it.

I’ve known two people who have had kidney stones and I don’t think either of them would have been able to withstand the pain from the stone enough to go on a rollercoaster. Then again, maybe the promise of ending the pain will give enough motivation to grit it out.

Re: Lemon-derived nanoparticles block the progression of kidney stones

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Post by sgtnoodle »

eigenvalue wrote: post #32

One of the most painful things I’ve ever experienced. I let myself get way too dehydrated while exercising on a very hot summer day, which brought it about (though I was obviously susceptible to them). I started hydrating a lot more and taking potassium supplements and luckily haven’t had them since. Thankfully I went to a great hospital, and the staff there knew how painful the condition is, so there was only around…

Do you to think crystals can form that quickly to have been caused by a single day of dehydration?

I had one a couple years ago. My theory is that I had accumulated crystalization the year prior. I had a heart nerve issue and my heart rate was significantly reduced for several months, getting as bad as 30 bpm for a couple weeks. Normally it's about 80 bpm. My kidneys were definitely underperforming as indicated by blood labs performed when I ended up in the ED/ICU with "total heart block". With that problem resolved, my kidneys were happy again and the crystals presumably started to gradually dissolve.

My urologist dismissed my theory completely, but I've been generally disappointed by my experience working with them and I am on the verge of finding a new provider. My most recent ultrasound shows that the kidney that had the stone pass is totally clear, while the other kidney still has some crystalization.

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