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Re: AirPods causing tinnitus?

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Any promising cures for tinnitus in the future? I've had it since 2018 and it appeared during a time when I was very stressed out. I have learned how to tune it out and live with it most of the time, but wish I could eliminate it all together. At the beginning I would look up different tricks for dealing with it, but they all seemed to make it worse. The most effective for me was to learn to ignore it.

Ive had tinnitus for 20 years. I follow possible cures quite close. Right now the closest to a scientifically proven cure is Susan Shore's device (combination of vague nerve stimuli and sound).

There are other possible treatments but their are off label. Brazil scientists had good response with actamprostate, but no follow up was done. There are other medicines that seem to yield good results but usually have several secondary effects.

Some research has linked tinnitus with Epilepsy. It seems the brain lack of control / filtering of signals is common for both.

Unfortunately a real cure still seems far away.

Re: AirPods causing tinnitus?

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I have pretty much stopped using my AirPods (and mostly headphones connected to the iPhone) after reading that emergency alerts can cause hearing damage: https://old.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/c8s6yi/eardrums_dest... https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7naqg/apple-airpods-hearing...

You can turn these off in the US, although not in some other countries (like Canada). Go to Settings -> Notifications, scroll down past the long list of apps, and then disable (as of this writing) AMBER Alerts, Emergency Alerts, Public Safety Alerts, and Test Alerts.

That said, I live in a part of the country where the government won't be able to tell you that a horrible disaster is coming (earthquake country). If I lived in Tornado Alley or someplace that floods, I'd have mulled over the emergency and public-safety alerts switches longer.

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I never experience tinnitus before buying the AirPods Pro. After using them a couple of hours with anc on on low loudness I get Tinnitus that wears off after three to four days without using AirPods. Using them without anc does not seem to trigger it. It is reproducible, sadly. First time I was very scared but now I understand the situation and limit anc to situations where it is really necessary.

anc = active noise cancelation FYI

Re: AirPods causing tinnitus?

#155

Hearing loss is very serious. You know your body better than anyone else so don't be afraid to be its biggest advocate and protector. Nobody else will. I once had tinnitus for a week after a concert and it was one of the worst weeks of my life, it felt like it would last forever (and for some people, it does). I had pristine, "golden ears" for audio engineering and was afraid about how much I'd be able to recover. I…

Hah hah. Good for you being able to recover. Got permanent tinnnitus from one mistake on not wearing hearing protection once when cutting stone table and i was hoovering the dust. Good thing is, you get used to it. Whatever you thought total silence was, it is gone now. Just have to work your brains towards not givin an f and you should be fine living with hearing damage. Just dont make it worse. You'll remember then the initial anxiety of losing it in the first place.

Re: AirPods causing tinnitus?

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In my experience and according to literature, there are cures for hearing damage. N-acetylcysteine, for one. I had been taking N-acetylcysteine (NAC) regularly for a while for reasons completely unrelated to hearing. I unmistakably noticed my hearing to improve. High frequency hearing once lost came back. I didn’t believe it. Looked on Google Scholar. The effect is known. The literature supports it; here’s just one p…

There may be cures in future (ways to regenerate all the areas that are involved in hearing - Auditory nerve, synapse and OHC, IHC) but there currently is no way to regenerate HC after apoptosis in Humans. Recovery of damaged/stressed HC, auditory is shown to happen naturally to a degree and -might- be helped through supplements. I take NAC myself and a few other supplements, the idea is to help support and lessen th…

Sounds like you've looked into this. Understand you wouldn't promote your protocol but I'd like to learn about it. How can I reach you?

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Based on personal subjective experience, my AirPods Max have definitely worsened my tinnitus. Given my 30-year history of tinnitus, I'm very careful about volume levels and I am certain that "too loud, too long" is not the thing that's made things worse for me. The only thing that changed is I started using AirPods, specifically the Max. I immediately noticed, when I first put them on, that I could hear better with t…

Your physics friend might be right that there's some ultrasonic amplification going on. But a physics guy should be able to rig up some equipment to actually measure and prove that hypothesis. I would :) But I don't have either model.

I'm sorry for your problems by the way :(

Re: AirPods causing tinnitus?

#158
i have been trying to be much more careful with my hearing stuff, including with airpods.

youtube taught me that hearing works/damages/recovers/repairs very differently than anything i'd ever imagined - like a muscle, from what i remember - no idea if it's true, tho.

after scanning that thread, i'm prob done with them forever now.

Re: AirPods causing tinnitus?

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My very good friend works in a hospital as an otorinolaryngologist, specializing in hearing damage and hearing aids. I actually met her today for a long walk. According to her, tinnitus rates have absolutely exploded over her career (since 2002) and the correlation with frequent use of earbuds is very obvious. I know that correlation neq causation and all the stuff about anecdata, but I am not willing to dismiss conc…

ANC earbuds though have emerged for a much shorter period. Until about 4 years ago this was exclusive to expensive over the ear headphones.
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