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Lemon-derived nanoparticles block the progression of kidney stones

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Re: Lemon-derived nanoparticles block the progression of kidney stones

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Post by throwanem »

coffeeshopgoth wrote: post #8
kldavis4 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, it's strange that my urologist has never mentioned it either. I wonder if this result applies to all types of kidney stones or just calcium oxalate.

A preventative like this is good to know, but, really, all you need to do is drink a lot of water through the day. That is the number one way to avoid a kidney stone. I have had a urologist say, "Hell, you can drink enough beer, and you should be good." - Though, if you are prone to gout (your body generally likes to make crystals), beer ain't a great choice.

Believe me when I say that I make strong habits of anything and everything I come across, including hydration, that offers a reasonable prospect of reducing the chance I will have another kidney stone.

Re: Lemon-derived nanoparticles block the progression of kidney stones

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Post by nerdponx »

moffkalast wrote: post #14
nrau wrote: post #5

I got my first and so far only (fingers crossed!) kidney stone five years ago. At that time I started drinking lemon juice with hot water to start each day before consuming anything else, and it has so far kept any recurrence of kidney stones away. I really do believe the lemon juice has been key for me in this regard, and it is in any case a very healthy thing to do daily anyways (known and practiced by other cultur…

Why hot water specifically? That sounds like the worst kind of lemonade.

It's actually very nice and refreshing. I've done this too at times for unrelated reasons. It feels "healthy".

Re: Lemon-derived nanoparticles block the progression of kidney stones

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Post by ChatGTP »

Sindisil wrote: post #13
coffeeshopgoth wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A preventative like this is good to know, but, really, all you need to do is drink a lot of water through the day. That is the number one way to avoid a kidney stone. I have had a urologist say, "Hell, you can drink enough beer, and you should be good." - Though, if you are prone to gout (your body generally likes to make crystals), beer ain't a great choice.

That is certainly not "all you need to do". It is good, and helpful, but if a person is prone to stones, it's often not enough on its own.

Also I just hate drinking water unless it’s hot.

I know doctors tell us to chug water but it’s just tiring sometimes. In winter for example, I just don’t feel thirsty and I just get bored heating water, making time to drink it etc.

So yeah, drinking 2-4 litres of water can feel unnatural to me.

Re: Lemon-derived nanoparticles block the progression of kidney stones

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Post by qskousen »

throwanem wrote: post #2

Time I made a habit of drinking lemonade - a suggestion I'd have expected from my urologist, but not one I'm sorry to have run across whatever the source.

I drink lemonade regularly (I make my own), but to prevent heartburn, as lemon turns into a base in your stomach and is very helpful with heartburn. Now knowing that it is also good for kidney stone prevention just puts the cherry on top!

Re: Lemon-derived nanoparticles block the progression of kidney stones

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Post by nicoburns »

moffkalast wrote: post #14
nrau wrote: post #5

I got my first and so far only (fingers crossed!) kidney stone five years ago. At that time I started drinking lemon juice with hot water to start each day before consuming anything else, and it has so far kept any recurrence of kidney stones away. I really do believe the lemon juice has been key for me in this regard, and it is in any case a very healthy thing to do daily anyways (known and practiced by other cultur…

Why hot water specifically? That sounds like the worst kind of lemonade.

Think of it like a lemon tea. You can in fact get lemon flavoured tea (e.g. lemon and ginger).

Re: Lemon-derived nanoparticles block the progression of kidney stones

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Post by olliej »

Oh wow actually reasonable use of “lemon derived” - I expected the usual “heavily processed with innumerable chemical reactions we converted oil from lemons into a new structure that in practice/volume would require starting with petroleum byproducts”.

This seems to be “we filtered these particles from lemonade and compressed them into pills to give to rats”

That said there’s also the required “in rats” missing from the headline, and I’m guessing the rats used are intentionally bred to get kidney stones, and fed a diet that encourages kidney stones, so the applicability to humans in normal cases isn’t a give . (Recalling the cranberry vs UTIs bs of a few years back)

Re: Lemon-derived nanoparticles block the progression of kidney stones

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Post by throwanem »

ChatGTP wrote: post #23
Sindisil wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is certainly not "all you need to do". It is good, and helpful, but if a person is prone to stones, it's often not enough on its own.

Also I just hate drinking water unless it’s hot. I know doctors tell us to chug water but it’s just tiring sometimes. In winter for example, I just don’t feel thirsty and I just get bored heating water, making time to drink it etc. So yeah, drinking 2-4 litres of water can feel unnatural to me.

I mean, ideally you don't do it all at once, but if you can chug a pint of beer then you can chug a pint of water, too.

Thirst is weird. I find it manifests as an unaccountable malaise and lack of focus well before I begin to perceive the sensation I understand as thirstiness per se.

Re: Lemon-derived nanoparticles block the progression of kidney stones

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Post by throwanem »

nrau wrote: post #5

I got my first and so far only (fingers crossed!) kidney stone five years ago. At that time I started drinking lemon juice with hot water to start each day before consuming anything else, and it has so far kept any recurrence of kidney stones away. I really do believe the lemon juice has been key for me in this regard, and it is in any case a very healthy thing to do daily anyways (known and practiced by other cultur…

I'm tempted to start taking a tablespoon or two of lemon juice in my morning orange juice - should be pleasant enough, as I like tart flavors anyway.
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